Erda
04-09-2012

how do we grind this skill please, do we need to ride the storms and blizzards or does sailing without food/water work? any info would be appreciated - thanks =)

Kicker
04-17-2012

how to train this skill?

Lisa
04-17-2012

that skill easy to grind just sailing with out water and food.

Meng Meng
04-28-2012

Does this help lessen deaths in battle?

Sophia
04-28-2012

You'll want first aid for that

Sophia
04-28-2012

You'll want first aid for that

Beatrice
05-17-2012

do i still need frugality after i have this skill?

Cornelia
05-18-2012

is there some sort of rule to follow to grind this skill? i've been sailing for hours without provision and i didn't gain proficiency

Laurencio
05-18-2012

Same quetion here ...

Nicola
05-18-2012

i have no problems lvling this, its slow but its lvling, found that you cant just sit outside a dock you have to be sailing. also going up to stockholm(little dangerous if pirates) but seem to get alot of blizzards there, that also helps lvl if you just sail round there

Junchul
05-18-2012

it just come to my atttention when ppl say first aid helps lessen the death rate of the sailors. but... does it help lessen the no. of frustration, mutinity etc...

Junchul
05-18-2012

it just come to my atttention when ppl say first aid helps lessen the death rate of the sailors. but... does it help lessen the no. of frustration, mutinity etc...

Port Official
05-18-2012

Here's the trick, survival only kicks in when your sailors morale are at 0.

Sonia
05-18-2012

Read on chinese wiki and personally tested/confirm that skill prof increase when days of no food/water is greater than survival rank x5 (ie, rank x5 +1) so let's say you are R2 from the 6th day onwards everyday of sailing without food/water you get skill prof but note that having food/water for the first 5 days is fine. One way to level is if you have the vintage consumable item that adds loyalty so they won't have mutiny no sailors die you keep getting exp.

Mei Hua
05-18-2012

Sorry I mean if you are R1 then it's 6th days onwards that you get skill prof, if you are R2 then it's 11th day onwards.

Carla
05-18-2012

ill ask again, do i still need frugality after i have this skill?

Lena
05-18-2012

yes you still need frugality. they are both good skills to have, for multiple reasons

Jean
06-19-2012

Does this skill lessen fatique increase & reduce liklihood of plague etc to prevent death? Also, personal experience seem to suggest that less water and food are consumed during battle anyone can comment on that?

Carla
06-19-2012

i have this skill rank 9 and its very cool
no need to use provisions

Steward
06-19-2012

@at Sonia instead of 'Vintage' just use 'Helena's Rosary' as this does loyalty boost and has +2 survival

Hans
06-19-2012

there's a reason why Pirates (with their 240crew 400hold Galleys)
have this skill you know...

Enver
07-22-2012

this skill ,is useful for a adv?

Enver
07-22-2012

this skill ,is useful for a adv?

Carla
08-27-2012

if i do shipbuilding.. and wait at port(NO sail) without any supply.. i get any xp for survival??? plzzzzzzzzzz someone answer

ReaD
08-27-2012

to get the skill prof..
1. it will only get exp after 15days or so
2. you must be sailing(not sure)
3. it's auto effect(wrong info on this site)
4. u must have no food/water
5. must have sailor..
6. the loyal on your sailor will be reduce because of no food/water..

i might be wrong.... but the part on auto effect is correct...

Rashid
08-27-2012

the post regarding skill rank x 5+1 is correct. I have rank 7 survival and that formula is working. So, for example, survival does not start ranking up till after 35 days at sea. To help with this, you can sit outside port for those days and then start sailing when you reach your number of days needed. Also, its best to get ocean explorer or other job that has survival. Ocean explorer job can be found in Seville and is pretty easy to get/do.

Montador
08-27-2012

Definitely ranks up while sitting outside a port. I rank it up while sleeping. ;)

Port Official
08-27-2012

also advisable to carry vintage of the covenant to help raise sailor loyalty while trying to level at sea. Try to keep loyalty from reaching 0. At 0, you get more mutinies and even though leadership can alleviate that problem, you still can lose sailors.

Rashid
10-14-2012

yeah vintage is a must :) i survived 890 days without water, then the last sailor went away. sad, sad day ... :D u dont have to sail to raise rank.

Theo
11-29-2012

when grinding this, should I wear survival boosters? or leave it with the base rank? what would be the difference between them?

Jafar
11-29-2012

more boost will get less prone to things...
but the skill prof will depend on base rank...

Igor
02-21-2013

No the links won't survive.

antihoney
02-22-2013

i love this skill so much, but realy hard to grind >,<
rank (8x5)+1 >,

Jafar
04-15-2013

Does this skill reduce fatigue gain at sea? is there a effective way to reduce the huge fatigue gain from rowing + frugality?

Sophia
05-02-2013

What does this skill actually do? I know many people think it's useful but I'm having trouble getting a straight answer as to _why_ it is useful.

It doesn't reduce fatigue or loyalty loss, and doesn't prevent mutiny or disease or other 'disasters' that come from sailing without provisions.

The description says it reduces harm to crew in times of drought and hunger, storm and blizzard. Crew NEVER get any actual harm (no loss of sailors) other than the disasters and loyalty/fatigue/mutiny that this doesn't affect, while sailing without provisions, and loss of sailors in storms is quite rare. So can someone please clarify what it actually does and why it is useful?

Thanks. :)

Junchul
05-02-2013

put it simply
survival makes your sailor last longer w/o food & water b4 they die
also less crew loss in storm

Beatrice
05-02-2013

And it does prevent plague etc. it says something like "Your survival skill prevented plague"

Hans
05-02-2013

Before EA update, this was an important skill for spice traders as they use all there cargo to carry spices and no food or water from Ambon to Europe but now spice trading is dead so pretty much this skill is useless.

I have r5 survival and im thinking of dropping this skill anytime soon but i heard there will be an update someday that will revive spice trading, spices will spike 135% when selling so, true or not, will see.

Theo
05-02-2013

well, in asian server the spice trading n nanban is the most profitable. and dungeons is adjust such a way that people cant grind it for profit but only batt skill. there is no ESTB as well. so hopefully one day, these changes will come to gama too

Miyo
05-06-2013

Is this skill a must have for all maritime characters or just for melee/pirates?? Thank you.

Igor
05-06-2013

it's a must for anyone who may be out on the water for extended periods without food or water. If you are grinding maritime near ports it has no usefullness at all.

Cornelia
05-17-2013

Does it decrease the appearence of dissasters at sea like plage, scurvy, mutiny etc... sailing without food is a pain in the ass? The higher the rank the better the effect?

Hans
05-20-2013

Is this a must have for nanban traders and spice traders (R.I.P trade)?? I tried it (rank 2) and lot of stuff started to happen to my crew at sea like scurvy, plague, fires, mutiny, quareling etc... the higher the rank the better the effect? Does it decreases the chance on crew getting an abnormality status like mutiny, scurvy, etc?

I think that the use of this skill make useless two skills: Frugality and collection, because with this skill you dont need food or water making frugality totally useless because you have no food to halve and you dont need water so collection is not necessary.

Vagina
05-20-2013

Vagina

Mei Hua
05-20-2013

r20 survival does not need water and food?

Io
07-19-2013

I don't know mei.

Theo
08-08-2013

1 reason pirates and martimers use this skill is it will allow you not need food or water meaning more timber and cannonballs. If you ever PvP you may see that allot of the time the winner is the guy that don’t run out of timber. A deap sea pirate (not port sitter pirate) with survival, fishing, frugality, Procurement can stay at sea almost forever on very little supplies despite their large crew and low cargo.

Lancelot
08-18-2013

You forgot storage

Sophia
11-18-2013

I'm currently lvling this using a BTC with 35 crew, with no food and water aboard, and with Ocean Explorer job. I gain about 4 prof points per sailing day though it doesn't kick in until around 6th day. You don't need to be actually sailing to gain points so you can port sit if you want. Be prepared though to loss a lot of crew from munity and fighting as it will happen quite a lot. Your really need to have Leadership skill if you plan to grind Survival.

Misun
12-14-2013

How many days at sea you need to be to start getting skill exp depends on your skill rank the higher your rank the more days you got to be at sea b4 it starts getting skill points. You (cannot rank this skill while sleeping) although you don’t need to be moving to get skill exp if you go afk your crew will mutiny get plague or otherwise die and leave you sunk once your fatigue is maxed which will happen fast your crew will die quickly

Enver
12-14-2013

30days

George
12-14-2013

better rank up survival to rank 20, beacuse GM EZIO is comming and we'll all need to survive!

George
12-14-2013

better rank up survival to rank 20, beacuse GM EZIO is comming and we'll all need to survive!

George
12-14-2013

better rank up survival to rank 20, beacuse GM EZIO is comming and we'll all need to survive!

Nekos
08-21-2014

When you get survival r20 you become Bear Grylls.
Everyday without water & food, you win 5 points

ZimXero
02-14-2015

As a combination class player focusing in maritime, i am just now picking up Survival even though i already have Frugality rank9. REASON: provisions on battleships fill the cargo. Running without food and water effectively adds 5% - 25% extra Speedup bonus, depending on sea zone.

Snipe
02-27-2015

This skill should also reduce damage from ice floes

Snipe
09-09-2015

The skill rank x 5+1 formula applies to base rank only, not with any boosts.

For example, if i have r2 +3 survival
I will get prof on the 11th day onwards

If i have r5 +0 survival
I will get prof on the 26th day onwards

briker
12-31-2015

it has auto effect whereas frugality is active

remmy
09-15-2016

Grinding survival while in a storm will net you really good proficiency. Just found this out actually. I put my sails down and waited out the storm for 2 days. Each day I earned 29 skill proficiency.

BonnyLass
03-02-2017

Let's see if I understand all of this correctly.

This skill only gets proficiency points if there is a severe storm or blizzard, and you're at sea in it. It will gain points if you sail without food and water, but only while actually moving, and only after a certain number of days at sea, based on rank. As a side effect, this skill can sometimes trigger and prevent status ailments like plague or scurvy.

Does that about cover it? Anything I've missed? And is there really a new +2 item from a Memorial Album? Thank you in advance!

Snipe
03-02-2017

To end the debate once and for all you do not have to be sailing to actually gain proficiency points, tried and tested.

Just sitting outside port works :)

Nekos
04-02-2017

If you want to squeeze good the survival skill the best job is salvager. You have the sail handling, the surveying, rescue and repair ,just in case a storm. I normally go the the 7.000 line , at south, where there is no land, all sea. When you "die" because you dont have more crew use rescue and, even that, the survival skill still working. Dont use the aide ship because you will need more money. You still need dishes to keep sailing.

WW
10-23-2017

Is this a fleet bonus or just own ship?

Guilder
10-24-2017

Only affects your own ship, as I recall.

CA-RvZ
02-03-2023

+2 Hand-Wep: Hornpipe of Origin

Marfisa
10-03-2023

Does it need to be at a certain level to start preventing scurvy or is it only an increase of probability the higher you go?

Marfisa
10-09-2023

For what I'm seeing it just increases the probability to prevent scurvy, but for me it started to do it after r4, so maybe there's a minimum level requirement

Kurama
10-18-2023

If i sail 35 days with food & water and THEN throw all the food & water away, i start earning xp on this skill at the day 36 or i need to sail without supplyes from the start?

Marfisa
10-19-2023

Nono, you can throw the food after you passed the first days. It's actually a good idea doing so to reduce possible problems before starting to get the xp

CA-RvZ
01-11-2024

+2 Hand-Wep: Harp of the Saint King

CA-RvZ
05-15-2024

+1 Weapon: Bes's Knife

CABlakeC
02-20-2025

The progress of getting skill prof won't be reset when anchoring at landing zones, so you don't need to worry about loosing it if you need to anchor there. :)