MarcoS
11-04-2014

sell in batches of 50 for each combo e.g 50x paper lanterns, 50x wuxu porcelain etc. try for more various trade goods for a bigger combo if you want XP

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H.-Gazi
11-15-2015

Lately I see way TOO many player doing nanban with just wine to Japan and yet they complain why there are so many pirates camping. Of course because you people (those who I refer) keep doing the same trade without thinking a alternative! >_<

In order to make it clear which goods are the best for each East Asia Country, I will list it here which are as far known by me. These are goods that brings (almost) the best results (1:1 with NPC) at a normal state of the port.

South China:
Marble
Saltpetre
Western Books
Musk (Super-effective but expensive to get)
Yangju Chestnut (Indirect-method, super-effective)
Inca Rose (Expensive to get, unless doing Lima Dungeon)
Jade (You can get lots of them from Pegu (with jeweller trade) or Palenque Dungeon)
Tourmaline

Korea:
Glasswork
Tobacco (Not good at Pohang due high backstock on Luxery)
Inca Rose (Expensive to get, unless doing Lima Dungeon)
Ruby
Eye-beads
Tourmaline

Japan:
Glasswork (Not good at Sakai due high backstock on Crafts)
Wine (Nothing to say but... easiest to get for most, but hard to peform nanban with due high backstock of alcohol by players...)
Yangju Chestnut (Indirect-methode, super-effective)
Inca Rose (Expensive to get, unless doing Lima Dungeon)
Eye-beads (Not good at sakai due high backstock on Crafts)
Tourmaline

Taiwan:
Saltpetre
Western Books
Musk (Super-effective, but expensive to get)
Glasswork
Yangju Chestnut (Indirect-method, super-effective)
Inca Rose (Expensive to get, unless doing Lima Dungeon)

I hope this will make some little changes for the traders (guess not). But for those, I hope this helps a lot ^_^

Kind Regards,

Huseyin-Gazi

BIakeC
11-16-2015

Another tip that can be helpful: If you have a trade skill relating to the good your exchanging for, your get a bonus of 2% more for per rank you have depending on the good type. Here's an example: Let's say your trading to get Saori in Sakai, and you normally get 1000 Saori back. Saori falls under the Crafts trade good category. If you happen to have, say, R10 Crafts trading, your get 20% more which means you get 1200 Saori then the 1000 Saori if you didn't have it. Testing this out with an alt, I also found:

- This can stack with NPCs and the nanban trade preference ship skill
- You can use booster equipment to get a bigger bonus
- Best of all, if your in a fleet, other fleet members can leech the skill so they can get the bonus for themselves as well.

TopGuns
11-19-2015

Huseyin-Gazi explain it very good as usual but i like comment since I'm nanban runner that kind of ppl which Gazi refer to .
As i always saying this system not balanced at all as simple as that u can load wine in 5 min with very less po usage and nearly free price and do it to jap over and over while i spend alot of money and time to see which items very easy to get for other countries and i found nothing ,with a french alt in Bordeaux u can buy up to 250 with R13 alcohol trading only R13 ! compare that with other countries needs and u will notice this system is big joke they need only ppl to do trades in jap wine jap and jap wine that is the game best way to make money....

Wystein
11-19-2015

As I said before this inbalance is because GAMA is a F2P server where there are cash shop items that distort the intended game balance. Try doing Nanban without using NPC and you will see how the balance works as you will no longer be able to get best rates by just bringing wine all the time.

TopGuns
11-19-2015

@Wystein I don't talk about NPC 4 sure no one do naban without NPC I mean by not balanced if wine is very easy and fast to load and work very well in jap why there is no other items for other 3 countries same as wine ?
some ppl may say yes there is like Gazi list some of them but try to load and compare it with cost/time to load with wine that is what i mean so no wonder every one camping at jap
another thing i confirm what BlakC said about 2% Kill3r fleet me while he have R20 craft trading and i got full cargo saori (22**) while i would get only17** without party him

Guilder
11-19-2015

Oh, NPCs exist in the pay-for servers too. MMOs are a money-making business, and no matter how much you try to enforce balance, one group of players will always have an advantage over another.

As to the ease of wine compared to other routes, seems to me that it is offset by backstock rates, and that Japan is a popular pirate hangout. The thing is, you can make money doing just about anything in this game; you just need to know how and to be willing to work together with others. Simple as that.

Egw
11-19-2015

I'll give my opinion on this nanban discussion since the server is unreliable atm, although I'm sure it will be wildly unpopular :-).

Nanban should be for trading what those highest rank treasure hunts are for adventuring, those hidden rooms with 10 lvl80 ghosts are for dungeoning, or (pick your favourite pita-to-beat fleet) is for sea battling: a high-level, end-game activity, that only traders that have taken the time to work up their skills should be able to excel at consistently without help (emphasis on "without help").

Therefore, if anything, instead of getting "wine-like" goods for the other three nanban areas, I'd rather see wine nerfed. But of course that can't / won't work in practice, because then you'd get half the server go "boohoohoo traders make all the money". So realistically, I'll concede ONE easy for everyone option is needed. At least let it stay there, let it be ONE ONLY for everyone to make money. Those who want to do well in the other areas too, please dedicate the skill slot(s) to more trading skills and take the time to grind them, or seek help, or accept your nanbaning will have its limitations, in the same way that dedicated merchant toons accept that their solo adventuring, dungeoning or seabattling will have its limitations.

xxx100063
11-21-2015

Chonging nanban is broken? every backstock is low

Curious
11-22-2015

Yes, Chongqing is indeed broken. It has been since the release of the game here on Gama and nothing has been done about it which is quite infuriating for me and a lot of other nanbanners.

What does broken mean in this case exactly? Basically you will never EVER get a 1:1 trade there. You could bring Musk there while it's in a Boom and use a NPC plus a ship with Nanban Trade Preference and you will still not get a 1:1 trade.

H.-Gazi
11-22-2015

Booming drops most of the backstock rates which makes them to offer less EA goods to you as well. I usually go there if there is recession while my trade good type doesn't get affected, but unfortunate it neither affect Art Trade goods... That is what you need to get 1:1 with Mianzhu nian hua.

I was expecting the backstock rate at least of this type would raise, because this one is very good for The Netherlands / France / Italy. It even surpasses Saori and Gumo Ink.

Hope it will get fixed in the future ever... :S

YoGolan
11-22-2015

what do u offer in Chongqing to get Mianzhu?

BIakeC
11-22-2015

You can bring anything you want but you will NEVER get a good rate back for Mianzhu. In my year or so of playing, and having all of China unlocked, I have yet to see backstock rate for Artwork in Chongqing actually go up. This is unfortunate, because it is the only other high value good that sells for a premium price in the Netherlands and in the Italy/Southern France area (the other being Saori and Paper Lanterns respectively). I did get a good amount of Yunnan Silver back during recession status once, but it's not even that great because it only sells well in the Northern France area and that area is usually crashed with Metals due to Bordeaux dungeon.

We really need to get OGplanet on the track to get KOEI to change this, unless theres a unknown fix in one of the updates we dont know about.

El Dorito
11-24-2015

Chongqing is working as intended, it's used for farming Nanban rewards.

Even if you could get Mianzhu on a regular basis like the other high value goods the extra time taken to sail all the way to Chongqing would make it not worthwhile anyway. If for some reason you'd still like to try to get a good amount of Mianzhu I'd suggest rapidly dumping a few thousand units of art there and see what happens to the backstock. Nanban markets can be manipulated by player actions... just like European ones.

xxx100063
11-24-2015

According to the backstock section, it seems that Chongqing only consumes trade goods and only produces little during recession. All arrows pointing down all of the time except during recession (with some +1). In contrast to other cities that have arrows pointing up for their specialty goods except during boom status.

Assuming that the backstock chart is correct, Chongqing is indeed a useless city for nanban trading. I cant find any other resource regarding that except on here.

This puzzles me because this situation put French players at a disadvantage in nanban, with Lanterns the only high priced goods for them. Although one might argue that Montpellier is an Iberian city but there is very high risk of crashed market or low price with just one city to sell.

Amuroray
06-17-2017

queation bout town status , said bonus is for what ? what we get ? or if we bring said goods we will get bonus

example :

War : "Apparently there was a war in XXX. First aid supplies should be seeing an increase in sales."
Bonus Bonus : Medicine / Fibres / Arms

at war , we get more of Medicine / Fibres / Arms or if we bring Medicine / Fibres / Arms we will get more goods ?

question 2 : is chongqing still useless ?

thx in advance for answering this noob curiousity

H.-Gazi
06-18-2017

Heya Amuroray,

Here are the answers for your questions:

Q1
When an town jumps into an certain status. Certain types of goods will be targeted where as in most case the backstock rate will drop (less in source for that EA port). This means that the demand on those types of good will raise. Example: Macau is under "drought"-status and you bring Musk (Perfume), meaning that the backstock of perfum types gradually decreases meaning more demand for your musk and thus better rewards. :-) Just note that the data's on ivyro about town status can deviate in practice!

Q2
In the past Chongqing was considered useless since ALL backstock rates were low to get any 1:1 ratio trade there. However with the alchemy boost (Forbidden Alchemy Book prefered) and great trade skills, you can get some goods on 1:1 there. This requires an extremly good trade good. You can get Mianzhu nian hua from it too which sells one of the highest price in EU at Southern France/Italy and The Netherlands.

Sadly, this gets beaten by Wuxu Porcelain.. In my opinion it isn't fair due that one is much easier to get and the fact longer distance is required to get hands on Mianzhu. I hope my suggestion reaches the developers to adjust this.

Anyway I hope this has been clear :-)

Kind Regards,

Amuroray
06-19-2017

So for question 1 it's what we bring that will get us bonus

and chongqing basically still not that worth

ok thx

oh 1 more question bout nanban , so in a nut shell we should bring whatever low backstock they have and they will give goods base on their backstock , high backstock means they give more goods trade , is this correct ?

BonnyLass
06-20-2017

Well, I've only done Nanban a few times myself, but as I understand it, the backstock rate's graph gives you an idea of what you should bring. The closer to the top the graph bar is, the less demand there is for a specific type of trade good, while the closer it is to the bottom shows a huge demand for a trade good type. I think high backstock means more goods given out in exchange, but I may be wrong on that.

Oh, and by the way, sometimes when we refresh pages on the DB, we can accidentally create a double post. If that happens, just look for the silver-grey button in the lower right corner of your post; that's the "Delete Post" button. Useful, if that ever should happen to you for whatever reason.

Amuroray
06-21-2017

ah thx , how about all those memorial album stuff ? how to get them ? just keep trading ?

BonnyLass
06-21-2017

Until someone can give you a better and more concise answer: yes. Just unlock all the cities of a particular region, keep on trading in that region, and eventually you'll be summoned to meet that region's leader (Masamune Date for Japan, Koxinga for Taiwan, and so on), who will give you a random MA item reward. It takes a while to do, but the rewards for persisting are very nice ones.

Gunny
06-21-2017

I believe, correct me if I'm wrong but not only chance but will only be summoned when that chance was right when in the same city as the leader ie EDO

Amuroray
06-21-2017

i see

so just trade trade trade , thx

Guilder
08-04-2017

At designated intervals, San Francisco will sometimes host a 1-day only, randomly chosen Nanban specialty good for purchase in its marketplace, in conjunction with the new railroad system. Today for example, the ever coveted Paper Lanterns of Japan are being sold for about 1.8k a piece. Recall also that you can use PO1s at normal markets to refresh their stock, and that Nanban goods can be ferried across the Railroad... well, I'm sure some enterprising kids out there will think of some way to use that knowledge.

You can keep an eye out for deals like this if you've charted the San Francisco Open Sea, and have discovered San Francisco, you can check its available trade goods via Charts. Maybe your fellow players would be nice enough to make mention of when it happens, also. Cheers.

Source: gvo.gamedb.info/wiki/?TranscontinentalRailroad

Donce
08-04-2017

nice, Guilder, thanks for sharing this info :) This is where Sundries trading skill can shine at its best :)

Japan
09-04-2018

90 % of nanban info. in this site are wrong i'm not talking about ea goods prices which is nerved long time back even info about back stock and trade goods value numbers also wrong .the only considered as right info is the target sell area which tell u the right place to sell your ea goods in erou .

carlalex
09-05-2018

Until now the listed trade good value- and backstock data have served me very well in determening what goods to bring to each nanban area and predicting backstock changes.

So how are they wrong ?

Sure, there are some new trade goods that have been introduced to the game since the info was written down. And yes the nanban good values have been nerfed, but its the relative values that matter.

So the data is incomplete, but correct according to my observations.

Edgedemon
09-06-2018

if there is a single nanban good not here, is one i haven't seen either.

i think the prices were reduced by 20% base or something, still i use those values as my min sell value reference, back stock is inherently meant to be dynamic and trade good value changes with said back stock, so they "are" meant to be reference only.