Suzy Wan
03-23-2012

Notice the job Shipwright has been changed to Privateer

Llewelyn
03-23-2012

I assumed it was sideways comment about the price of ships :D

Laurencio
05-02-2012

eny way to get this to R20?

Theo
05-02-2012

r19 max , r20 is NC item

Lewis
05-02-2012

Rank 19 with shipwright and maybe job then with Aide. for rank 20

Wen zhi
05-03-2012

hmm R15 basic +1 form job +1 form saw +1 from aide = 18? how to get R19 whitout using NC? somthing i have missed?

Mei Hua
05-03-2012

It goes up to R16 since SB is expert skill for shipwright job. So, 16 +1 job +1 aide +1 saw = 19.

Sakura
05-03-2012

ah i see ty all for replyes:-)

Rashid
05-09-2012

Isnt it possible to get +2 from aides, when you have 2 aides both giving +1 to the shipbuilding skill?

Sylvia
05-09-2012

no, you cannot have 2 aides on same duty (surgeon for shipbuilding)

Rashid
05-09-2012

So basically 16+1 from shipwright job (update changed it back to shipwright instead of privateer) +1 Shipwright saw +2 from 2 aides.
16+1+1+2 = 20. If there are NC items or whatever I missed it can go higher then r20. Am I correct?

Natascha
05-09-2012

WRONG
you CANNOT have +2 from aide -__-

Ming Mei
05-10-2012

LOL ,, idiot debate ... WahahahahahahahahahHHhHhahahahahahahah

George
05-10-2012

I heard the temporary +3 battle skills item EXCLUDES shipbuild meaning you can't just reach r17 and pop the item to temporarily become r20 can anyone verify this?

Montador
05-10-2012

That is correct. No +3 on Shipbuilding

Carla
05-10-2012

Any +3 on other production skills?

Montador
05-10-2012

The +3 trade one boosts Alchemy, Handicrafts, Sewing, etc. The only exception on all boosters is shipbuilding.

Ming Mei
05-11-2012

what's the differences between a R19 and R20 Shipbuilder?

Gimlipoet
05-12-2012

Nothing until EA roll out. Just a little stronger on original build of boats is all

Holfina
05-12-2012

"little stronger" is deceptive truth is only slight increase in cargo usually 6-9 more cargo depending on ship

George
07-20-2012

what is the total money lost in grinding this to r19 please

George
07-20-2012

oh and how long does it take?

Hernan
07-20-2012

what is the total money lost in grinding this to r19
and how long does it take?

thanks in advance for the speedy replies =)

Enver
07-20-2012

I have seen plp at calicut grinding for month IRL, sambuk cost 600k and takes 12 days to build, 500k in return when sold back to SY. SB is like any skill at r11 it jumps up to about 16k exp, sambuk gives 40?

Misun
07-21-2012

Just build cutter , skill prof is faster than sambuk .
And no need go to india just at major city

George
07-21-2012

ok ty for those comments i too have seen ppl in India and have heard about Cutter xp argument, but they dont answer my actual question...


a.how much cash am i going to lose TOTAL to max this?(not inc +1SB book)
b.how long will/should it take from rank1 to max?

Miyo
07-21-2012

wow u are very lazy or blind There are lots of guides and pages at uwo.netmarble forum,or at olous website telling u how much money u need and how many days require

Miyo hyuna
07-21-2012

go search and read it

George
07-21-2012

or im possibly a noob without a clue, and therfore asking , it is nice that aswel as insulting me, you did manage to pass me the info i required thankyou so much .

HiddenValley
08-02-2012

It will take you longer to get an answer on here than it will to level to r19. Quit being lazy and grind. Either that or pay the gouge that us SB's charge you for a simple refit.

HiddenValley
08-02-2012

It will take you longer to get an answer on here than it will to level to r19. Quit being lazy and grind. Either that or pay the gouge that us SB's charge you for a simple refit.

George
08-02-2012

ive researched it now thankyou,
and actually it would take longer to get a reply to a '/shout' in game from a r19SB, than it would to rank this to max.
id still rather do the shipbuilding, than than pay the inflated rates that current SB's seem to charge.
i mean, you lot charge just for sailing/time at sea - that, no other production class can charge its customers. for some recipes we spend a damn sight more time sailing around than you SB's do...

i mean take a nice simple recipe like Maidens Mittens
ingredients: 3 white alchemy ointment, gloves of wisdom, velvet ribbon.

so i got to SAIL and pick up ingredients for sorcery and undine seal seals- salt, mandrake, silver, more salt, white ore, spring water. SAIL Alexandria make seals, SAIL to quaters to make white alchemy ointmentx3
i also gotta make black alchemy ointment for gloves of wisdom so more stuff and more SAILING....

then SAIL to porto pick up gloves, SAIL to my farm which i have painstakingly upgraded to make Exquisite fur (now with any luck my farm produces rabbits and veg oil) or i gotta SAIL elsewhere to get those ingredients, then SAIL Venice

then i gotta SAIL off to buy or make velvet ribbon

then i gotta SAIL Farmagusta to make mitten

then i gotta SAIL to you because you lot expect it...

now DO ANY OF YOU WANT TO PAY ME - 500k + per day for time at sea/ sailing? because these gloves are apparently only worth 20-30m

because you will not see all these ingredients on sale in any bazaars in Seville and you certainly cannot sail to 1 port only to put it together

so rather than argue the point with you hard done by SB's,
id rather fork out my own time and money and grind another production skill SB, to go with my casting, handicraft, sewing, alchemy, storage, appraisal archeology, geography, recognition, search, unlock, etc all maxed or close to it...

Natascha
08-02-2012

cry cry cry

um i already have a ship btw

Sonia
08-02-2012

looks like the racists alchemist Etta is back with her bone to pick at Shipbuilders again.

Sakura
08-02-2012

yeah saw about 8 players in London telling r19 SB where to go looking for a fool to buy her Manila Galleon at 60m other day

and the racist comment was made by a US SB btw
not the Jamaican/Brit Etta

Meng Meng
08-02-2012

stand by your comments Etta don't go blaming others for what you said. you obviously have something against shipbuilders and clearly can't stop spamming this site about it.
do everyone a favor and quit, quit the game and nobody will even notice a useless alchemist gone and most of all stop spamming this site with your crap

George
08-02-2012

i am not Etta - she HAS quit the game = because of the US SB that used her name to make a racist comment, using an American slang term 'the mondays'

and it was you that brought that subject and person up again
did she touch a nerve, that you felt the only way to shut her up was to use racism to discredit the girl

all you self-righteous SB's to sink to such a lvl

Sonia
08-02-2012

I usually hate adding to this kind of shit but i'll pile in here..

If you're NOT Etta then how in the hell can you be sure Etta has quit the game? At best you're a friend of hers and bringing back up old shit that honestly nobody cares about.

Emma
08-02-2012

lol an alchemist calling somebody else self-righteous thats priceless
I have never seen such an entitled group as you lot, far worse then pirates even.
the alchemy skill could disappear from the game tomorrow and the general population of the game wouldn't notice or care. I understand this causes you great bitterness but stop spamming this site with your bull shit. Etta or not you are every bit as pathetic as her

George
08-02-2012

my IGN is not George so dont bother trying that crap with

George
08-02-2012

she said she was quitting her husband said she was quitting and her name is no longer in the game as noted if you try and send her a PM it states quite clearly

there is no character with that name

or words to that effect

Lancelot
08-02-2012

cool story bro, tell it again

George
08-02-2012

this was my original question:

what is the total money lost in grinding this to r19 please, oh and how long does it take?

for which all you really helpful people seem reluctant to answer...

meh ill grind it its good to be self sufficient in a game...

Wen zhi
08-02-2012

i seen manila galleons @45m still not selling tho it seems ...

Mei Hua
08-02-2012

i just saw a Manila in London a R19 build with workshop for 40mil... been there for like 2 hours

Rashid
08-02-2012

If you spent 8 hours a day every single day it would take you about two months. It took me 4 or 5 months. You lose a few hundred million in the process

Naoyasu
08-02-2012

the Manila Galleon is not exactly at the top of everyones wish list for ships. Lets be honest it has a market that is limited. I suspect mostly French players are interested in it.
many people built because its new and long term the price will probably settle in around the 40-45 million range and it will be hard to find one eventually because it isn't worth the time and effort at that price

Erda
08-02-2012

nobody answers how much it cost most likely because nobody is tht damn anal. Read around to find out what to grind at each level, use the database and find out how much they cost and how much prof they give. It's all there for somebody who wants to waste time trying to figure out how much it will cost before they do it. As for the rest of us we'll just grind away while we have the money, and do other things to raise funds when we can't.

How much does it cost to get casting off the ground? Who cares? Just work on it as you can and get it done.

George
08-02-2012

thankyou Rashid, Naoyasu and Erda, maybe i was being anal but im starting sb from scratch and wanted to have an idea of time and cost before setting out.
i have researched it since and have started sb recently tho alchemy, casting, handicrafts, and sewing orders keep cropping up and i change jobs when its financially sound to do so, im r6 base atm. ill stick with it til maxed.

remek
08-05-2012

Wher is info in which SB and SW rank 1-15 what u can build?

Kicker
08-06-2012

i prefer doing cutter from r7+1 or r6+2 or r5+3 sb skill :) it is the fastest way to reach r16 :)

Dongwoo
08-06-2012

and around 222m+ ducats :)

Nicola
08-06-2012

222m ? from r1- ?

because i was looking at another wiki
and you lose approx 180m from r10-r16...

Sophia
08-06-2012

sounds about right

I haven't done the math but I'd be willing to bet it takes more prof points to go from r10 to 16 than it does r1 to r10 and it might not even be close. Add to that the diminishing prof pts per build on any given boat as your get higher up. Most of the money will be spent on the last 6 levels

Hans
08-06-2012

ty Sophia =)

Dongwoo
08-06-2012

depends entirely on what you build for example you can finish the last level or two if you got secrets of shipbuilding in about half the time building Turkish Galley but you lose about 800k per build. Making the overall cost much greater

Rashid
08-06-2012

that 222m is from r7-16

Jean
08-18-2012

just 1 question; according to this and other wiki's this is the shipbuilding skill point equation

EXP = (total ship sail requirement level + days of construction) x 8.5 / (Shipbuilding skill level + 1)

so the higher my SB rank, the less points i earn per build, correct ?

so is it better to be a shipwright r10 (+1 job)= r11
or guardian or other job where i would be only r10
and therefor earn more points ?

Jean
08-18-2012

i mean i know im only a noob SB but wouldnt it also be cheaper and faster in the long run

Nicola
08-18-2012

well no since when it is unfavored you need twice the proficiency per level you would when the skill is favored

Cao Wei
08-18-2012

If the job does not have shipbuilding favored, it caps at 10, you gain no proficiency if you try to do a build and you are a natural r10 in shipbuilding.

Chester
08-18-2012

I read your question wrong.. proficiency gain is based on your raw unboosted skill rating. so there would be no difference in proficiency points when building as a shipwright or a guardian.

Beatrice
08-18-2012

kk ty

Laurencio
08-18-2012

lol 1 or 2 SB answer this question above, if the question was about pricing suddenly 30 or so pipe up with their opinion helpful bunch aint they...

Theo
08-18-2012

much more helpful then egocentric know it all alchemists thats for sure

Kicker
08-18-2012

wow , have you got a permanent hardon for alchemists,
because im only 18/20/21.
which, incase you dont know, means i cant do alchemy.

Erda
08-18-2012

@Theo
are you the same dumazz US SB that impersonated a female alchemist
and made racist comments

the brave soul who wont leave his ign because your scared of the backlash from your own comments

geez, let it go...

Ming Mei
08-18-2012

Theo aint a female impersonator

he a tranny

Sakura
08-19-2012

today i agreed a price with a SB r19 to fleet me to improve my ship (price is 5m per improve,pretty cheap but im greatful)
this price i assume is to cover the cost of her not playing the game or
whatever, she says she is busy for about 20 min then she will reply to me.
after 10min i warn her that im switching characters, (my alt is in Seville, where i happen to see said SB in bazaar)few min later im back on my main, i pm and inform.

two hours later still no reply and she is still in bazaar in Seville,
so essentially i would have been paying her 35m to move her bazaar from seville to london and fleet me...

great two hours of my game wasted for naught.

Claudia
08-19-2012

I don't know what your problem with getting an SB to fleet with you is.. I invested a couple million in Ceuta so i could do improves there. i have had zero trouble getting r18+ sb's to go to Ceuta.

If you are expecting them to go to London, maybe you need to rethink your approach.

Carla
08-19-2012

its BC that was the issue with finding one, but the real issue is that we made a deal then she didn't show and never told me

Misun
08-22-2012

Can anyone tell me what's the difference between normal SB & special SB?

Enver
08-22-2012

Special SB is for improving existing ships using SSIP's, NC Items.

Igor
08-22-2012

Thanks Enver. Btw, what are SSIPs?

Sonia
08-22-2012

Special Ship Improvement Permits

Lisa
10-11-2012

I sometimes see people advertising as r20 SB. Is my math wrong, or is that not possible given only 2 items adding +1 SB?

Francine
10-11-2012

its shipwright job that will let you reach r16 base SB and it gives +1 for being an expert skill. Aide gives +1 SB, saw gives +1 SB and a rare accessory i think that will give +1 SB as well to reach r20

Lisa
10-11-2012

I sometimes see people advertising as r20 SB. Is my math wrong, or is that not possible given only 2 items adding +1 SB?

Sylvia
10-11-2012

Secrets of Shipbuilding giving you +1. Price is variable from 7-8B to 15-16b

Maerlynn
10-13-2012

A lot of hulls require SB > 10 and Handicrafts > 10, but none of the classes has them both favored. Does this mean s Shipbuilder will have to fleet with someone with the appropriate Handicrafts level to build those hulls, or is there some other way around the requirement?

Junchul
10-13-2012

Fleet required, but only the one with handicrafts can build it...

Mean old man
10-13-2012

You can also at times use an item and an aide. For example a Large Mast requires q r12 handicrafts. You can be r10 + Shipwrights Saw + Annette the aide and reach r12.

ReaD
10-24-2012

is it possible if low lvl sb(r3 for example) leech those who got r19 or r20 to get moar skill proficient?

Lancelot
10-24-2012

You can leach SB in any other cases EXCEPT to build ships

Misun
11-08-2012

Anyone knows how to raise the chance of getting a "Great Success" for improving ship? Tarot, College, Sb rank, or just pure luck :)

Chester
11-08-2012

just pray

AliBayan
11-08-2012

Why not a great success while building ships, too - I do a Cutter, and whoa, Tea Clipper comes out!

Io
11-08-2012

i wished to

Claudia
11-09-2012

^me too

Laurencio
12-17-2012

How to get R25 SB?

Maria
12-17-2012

No such rank

Dongwoo
12-17-2012

Super Frigate need R25 SB for improve 5/5 :(

Laurencio
12-17-2012

all skills cap at r20, quit being a fraidy britches and do the improvement with your favourite r20 sb

Nicola
12-17-2012

when FS improving you can build with a +5 skill, in other words if you are r20 you can improve till r25

Hernan
12-17-2012

so,how to get r25?

Cornelia
12-18-2012

Trolling is old. Give it a rest.

Emma
12-18-2012

a R20 SB reaches R25 in FS, a R19 would reach R24, if you still don't get... I give up

Kicker
12-22-2012

I dont get it ... Emma .. Please give up..... lol

PingPongBall
01-02-2013

any1 idea what the thesis is called where u need r11 sb for? and yes i do know that thesis is not available on Gama server. kind regards

Dongwoo
01-02-2013

yes, it's called "That r11 shipbuilding thesis that isn't on an english language server yet" HTH does anybody know what it's going to be called yet?

Darnell
01-02-2013

Hopefully this year 2013 they will add that thesis in GAMA server as I can't afford buying the SSB+1 item. :)

Dongwoo
01-02-2013

Same here .. lol

Mei Hua
01-05-2013

Stupid question no 1861: I am not an SBer but would like my ship improved. I'd like to provide the SSIPs to the SBer, as I don't want them to spend their own real money on my freaking ship. Seeing that they are not tradable, can I fleet with them and leech the skill, although I have no SB skill at all? Or perhaps some other way to improve and add optional skill? I already know about the OSB = 200 PAs option.

Lild
01-05-2013

Yes you can fleet with them and leech there skill if you do not even have SB what so ever.

Lild

linbau
01-19-2013

looking to hire SB which uses SSBP

Junchul
02-03-2013

how do i see someone with R21 SB?? Job, Saw, Aide, SSB+1.. what else?

Junchul
02-03-2013

R20 is the max ship builders can go to.

Claudia
02-03-2013

Max can go to 22 now, shipwright job base 16 +1, aide +1, saw +1, book +1, ruqu clothes +1, manufacture building on company colony +1, altough i think it caps at rank 20 and any further rank is disconsidered like all other skils atm that are capped at rank 20.

Dingo
02-03-2013

Ruqu Clothes? Where can I get them?

Carla
02-03-2013

Ruqun w/ SB+1 comes from the Groundhog Treasure Box.

Dingo
02-03-2013

ah, ty

Dingo
02-03-2013

Anyone know the fleet(s) that you can plunder the sb+1 book from?

Holfina
02-03-2013

the big fleets around newfoundland, but you dont plunder book you plunder a chest there got a littel chance of getting book from

Sonia
02-04-2013

A R20 shipbuilder told me that you can get -25% cargo (with R20) on battle ships without penalty if you do it at the last mod. How is this actually done? Does the effective range automatically widen or do I need to do something special? Basically I was told adjust my cargo this way [+20% > -20% > +20% > -20% > +20% > -20%... etc] to reduce chance of failure so do I just do -25% with last mod and there will magically be no penalty? Don't wanna risk it without confirming I'm doing it right. Thanks.

Naoyasu
02-04-2013

Well I'd like to know if you don't do it with r20 lets say with r18 can you do +18% then -18% then +18% does that still work to avoid fails?

And if you can really reduce cargo to -25% can you also increase trade ships to +25% without penalty?

Meng Meng
02-20-2013

Upcoming patch, with $1 USD you get to 1 rank level up, no more grinding, just paying.

Nicola
02-20-2013

Aww that would be so nice :P

polt
02-20-2013

That for all skills or just SB? Would defently buy few of those for unlock been stuck on rank 9 unmodded for a while with it.

Ming Mei
02-20-2013

Hmm I could see boosting a couple skills that way. Shipbuilding would be one. I don't have enough spare time to play to grind it up.

Lena
02-20-2013

@polt - Shipwrecks give massive unlock prof. I often get up to 500 prof in a single 8* wreck. They're pretty fun, too.

polt
02-20-2013

yeah but when you need 10k plus for each level unlock favored that is nothing. Especially when usually about hour travel between SW.

Sakura
02-20-2013

As if there's not enough players leaving?

Sylvia
02-20-2013

typical response these days "player leaves or quits the game" just because an item changes the landscape of the game or one comment regarding NC.

Carla
02-20-2013

I really don't get it why people comment on "I'm quitting" or "UWO will lose players" or "game is boring because of NC, etc". Seriously, dont you people have a real life. So what if the all players one day decided to leave??? is that the end of the world??? are you gonna die? will it affect your life???. I'm not trying to be over reacting or sarcastic but just play the damn game. period.

Shirin
02-20-2013

But you actually are overreacting and sarcastic lol

Meng Meng
02-20-2013

Play the game, but dont talk about what the other says. you are doing the same as those you criticize

Lancelot
02-20-2013

Carla why do you care? No reason for you to defend god cannons?

Maria
02-28-2013

At R12 SB rank, what ship is the best to build when it comes for more efficiency?

Sublime
02-28-2013

Trading Schooner in colony with r2 shipyard and 3000 population.

Naoyasu
02-28-2013

Build schooners or agile schooners. Same skill points and save a few ducats.

Liza
02-28-2013

Build sambuks and at lvl 15 build xebec

Xiao Wei
02-28-2013

or keep spamming Cutters. cheap and convenient

Hernan
02-28-2013

Either cutters or schooners is faster and cheaper than sambuk/xebecs. Between schooners and cutters - schooners are faster and cutters are cheaper.

Sylvia
02-28-2013

Sambuks till r15, turkish galley for last rank, the best for me for a simple reason, making a new ship every 6/8 mins is hell, sambuks give a few less prof but 12 mins allows you to do something in the meanwhile.
turkish galleys for last level, more expensive (200m approx) but remind, it's pixel money, time you spend for it is real...

Laurencio
02-28-2013

+1, Sylvia

Maria
02-28-2013

Only problem is sambuks built in calicut and it's a hassle to go there...

Steward
02-28-2013

why so? Nellemus there

Li Yue
02-28-2013

sambuks an be built anywhere in the african east coast, red sea, arabia india or SE... for example, Manila is great, the shipyard is very close, but there are LOTS of places with sambuks to grind

Baze posted in forum
03-11-2013

Is it true that if you apply +/- (% according to your SB level) penalty according to each improvements, they will generate great success and make a better ship in the end?

Mei Hua
04-05-2013

Can someone from UWO database team please delete and ban XRumerTest's IP or something?

Hawka
04-06-2013

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arcalkDeemess
04-09-2013

Hello. And Bye.

Beatrice
04-09-2013

ignorance is better than banning him ^^

Dicextemi
04-09-2013

Hello. And Bye.

Beatrice
04-22-2013

How good improvements can be made? Is there a way to attain the called "great success" while improving ships? I mean how players are able to greatly improve ships with few improving numbers 5 to 6??

I have seen ships with GOOD improves only being 5/5, some have over 10 WR and same for turning speed, also a good amount (if not max sails), good amount of armor, good etc only being 5/5!!! Is there a secret to do such improvements? or what parts are used to do those improvements?

Let put Storm sails and Delphin sails apart, what parts must be used for an effective ship building? How do you get GOOD improves without using NC FS parts?

Cornelia
04-28-2013

Sorry, noob question, but I just won my first NC ship from treasurebox. What optional skills can I put on it? The db doesn't list any...

Hans
04-28-2013

it depends on what ship did you get

Cornelia
04-28-2013

You look up the basic model of the ship you got. So if you won an AFCV, you look up FCV. If you won a Modified Survey Large Clipper, you look up Large Survey Clipper (the order is a bit weird with that one, but it's easy enough to deduce).

Hans
04-28-2013

do not look up fcv for an afcv
it's not accurate

ask around, wade thru all the shit on the page for afcv and you'll see

cuffiezdy
05-11-2013

,,,

yziphwbow
05-15-2013

,,,

Nina
05-25-2013

Do Oxford skills Increase production sucess rate 1,2,3 and 4 inncrese the improvement great success? If yes, who should have it? the ssip guy or the sb guy?

Holfina
05-25-2013

yes , the ssip guy

Ming Mei
05-25-2013

and also the magician tarot card and aide with paymaster 100 s

Steward
05-25-2013

Wow thanks, but who should have it? the guy that improves and got SSIPs but NO SB or the guy that stays near the first guy that got r20 sb?

Kicker
05-25-2013

the guy that is doing the improve with the ssips

Claudia
05-25-2013

Oxford skills dont affects shipbuilding, same to paymaster aide and tricks of production skills

Liza
05-25-2013

Thanks again for the info, one more thing, Ik calculator just does the medium you can get on the improvement... should I relay on it or not? (considering I have r20 sb)

Dongwoo
05-25-2013

u are wrong, they affect everything u make , also tarot aswell, and aide is better to have just in case, ;) ask around

Xiao Wei
05-25-2013

With r20 SB as long the ship dont need over r20, calculator is reliable. Of course, you should plan and "leave" a margin just in case something goes horribly bad

Hernan
05-25-2013

that is a matter of luck ... if u have a fail it will be less than calculator, as great sucess will be more.

Liza
05-25-2013

So... all of those increse great success, like mage card, oxfrod skills... wont affect improvements...I am not even enterely sure how to know/check this is true or not >.

Beatrice
05-25-2013

There is no way to know/check unless the developers make it known. The rest is people's views, opinions, feelings, deductions, ideas, what somebody heard somebody heard somebody say etc.

Claudia
05-31-2013

when modding ship , should i use gunport on ship maxed out canon from previous imp ?

Dongwoo
06-03-2013

Would someone please take the time to explain building for speed? I have heard the smaller the ship is the faster it is (I.E. less cargo space = faster ship). Some say the size of your hold don’t mater it only counts if there is something in it. Then others say if you refit and max your cannons and crew just to reduce your hold it helps make you faster. Basically no one I ask can agree on how it actually works.
Any help is much appreciated

Junchul
06-03-2013

Smaller cargo = betters acceleration
Higher wave resistance = better maximum speed

When you hold something in your cargo your acceleration & max speed will be reduced. That's all I know for sure because I did some testing with my brother (I don't believe till I test it). I heard that armor does something to acceleration as well but idk for sure.

Just my 2 cents hope it helps, may not be 100% correct tho.
Peace

Nicola
06-07-2013

R10SB = Improves 50m per 1. Reply on here.

Emma
06-07-2013

lol really? who would hire an r10 SB? for 50mil you must be joking, ive seen you at bank in seville using your bazaar to advertise for r10 SB, youre a joke. i pay r20 SBs 10-15mil if my comp r20 SB isnt available.

Xiao Wei
06-07-2013

R10 SB is max. I offer great services for 50m. Come now!

Misun
06-07-2013

sorry r20 is max, you need to get shipwright job. atleast without the SB book you can get r19, r20 at a colony with the building +1 to all production skills including SB. and 50mil is a bad price per mod even for r20 SB.

Sylvia
06-07-2013

You're feeding the trolls.

George
06-07-2013

Well i have r1 base and r9 on top. r10 = 50m improve pm me!

duh
06-07-2013

hmmm... 50mil for r10 eh, OK i got r15, so 75mil per mod? LOL

Xiao Wei
06-08-2013

While Improving, if both the SSIP player and the r20 sb players have sb skill (SSIP player has very low SBing) which player's sb skill will interfere in the improving process? Thanks in advance

Igor
06-08-2013

huhwha?

Li Yue
06-08-2013

If there is more ppl in the fleet, and all of the got sb skill, only the highest sb skill counts while improving?

Naoyasu
06-08-2013

If you fleet with an R20 shipbuilder, you will do special shipbuilding as if you were R20 yourself. But if you are simply building a ship (Build Ship) only your shipbuilding rank counts. Now I'm not sure about building ships with a hull, I'll have to test that out sometime. That is done via special shipbuilding and you may be able to leech a fleetmates sb rank to do that.

Sonia
06-08-2013

And yes, only the highest rank SB counts when improving.

I showed you mine :)
06-22-2013

looking for suggestions on "best" ship to build for skill gain.
I know at rank 15:
baby schooners at colony give 22points for 6day build.
Emigrant Barque gives 43points for 12day build.
these are the 2 highest "prof per build day" i could find,
anyone know of better?
or "best" for longer build time, like 20-30 day?

Cornelia
06-22-2013

Those are the best ones to grind the skill nowadays.....before those ships were out the best were sambuks and xebecs for longer time afk, but nowadyas its those two ships, altough many still relies on sambuk and xebecs in india since they still follow old guides.

Cornelia
06-22-2013

Ah yes before i forget there is still the turkish galley in tunis área, but they are more expensive to build only 16 days to build if i remember well

Cornelia
06-22-2013

turkish galleys are the most efficient, but you have to defect otto to invest in the ports to be able to make them and the cost compared to schooners is steep. If you haven't defected yet, or you don't have very deep pockets, then get very used to building schooners.

Some people still build sambuks because of the longer build time which allows more afk time/watching tv. The problem with schooner builds is that you just don't have a lot of time in between builds to do much. Another alternative is cutters in major cities. 8 day builds, cost half as much as schooners, prof is almost as good, but not quite.

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06-22-2013

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Liza
06-22-2013

Dont need to be ottoman to build (grind) Turkish galley, Tunis have these. FS builds of course need invest in Istambul or Alexandria (as long is developed)

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Natascha
07-13-2013

does shipbuilding affect the modding results?

Meng Meng
07-13-2013

higher sb rank give more % to get great success when modding
> should always mod with sb20

Igor
11-02-2013

WTS R20 SB account 500$

Io
11-10-2013

Some dude named Icecrow just tried to trade AATS(ticket) for my AFCV(8/8)+7b and lured me to share his SB mod secret if I am willing to trade...... Gosh I've been away since Feb-March, the population has dwindled to alarming states, and yet some players are still trying to trick others and/or leech info from others for free while keeping or "selling" what they know...... Keep this up against new players and you won't have a community to play with soon...... UWOffline

Li Yue
11-10-2013

lol

Erda
11-11-2013

Icecrow = stehrle

Port Official
11-11-2013

So what are the SB tricks? Besides +/-20% ship hold every mod (assuming sb20).

Icecrow
11-11-2013

You have to make a bad trade with me to find out

Francine
11-11-2013

Lol pretender

Lisa
11-11-2013

what is so good to do +/-20% ship hold every mod? I tried that once and every time i get -5 WR and -25 v and h sails.. and i ruined my ship :)

Mei Hua
11-11-2013

Is Sterle in PAC now I thought he/she was SL?
I thought only PAC knows those extra tricks no one shared?
Yes it's sad some people like/need to learn from others,
but won't let others learn from them, hella cheap, go play offline game.
Seriously though, anyone who agree to that trade is dumb.
How do you know the secret really works? Even if you know...
How do you know the person will really share it after the trade?
It's like saying "give me your ship, stranger, and I'll pay you later".

Theo
11-11-2013

Lisa if you get penalty it means you did 20% without r20 so you should do 19% for r19 and 18% for r18 and so forth btw it's not always +20% then -20% then +20% etc because you have to make sure (1) you end with -hold (2) can consider -25% last mod if you still have >11wr and enough sails after penalty remember max sails isn't practically that important for battle ships well it still mattes when you engage and try to catch pirate or get into good position but once battle starts it counts for nothing Asian wiki says hold size and number of sails and armor etc are what matters for battle speed/accel/whatever that sums up what I know oh there's also hypotheses on mod in your own territory and use of golden tarot for GS or less fail dunno if thes hypotheses are true PAC knows more tricks I'm sure but who cares games dying PAC and resellers and all those scums can go play UWOffline as you guys said

Sakura
11-11-2013

SB'ing is honestly fun its like gambling when modding theirs a handful of methods to genertae great successes however with an adidtude like theo/Mei why would anyone want to share them with you given its something learned by experence.

Go mod your fail ships and have fun getting shitloads of fails doing it with +20/-20% every single mod tralalalalala

Maria
11-11-2013

Dun get what Sakura is trying to say as the max/min cargo (without penalty) every mod method has been tested by many ages ago, there was also the 1% cargo increase method, anyone else care to share what they've tried and experience with that?

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12-07-2013

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Meng Meng
12-07-2013

you only need the mod to be as expensive as possible thats the trick that the +20-20 cargo uses and it works its just weird maybe the people at the shipyard love being paid more

Shirin
12-16-2013

where and how do you get the 20th level in ship building. the aide igor give you 1 for level 18 and the saw gives you 1 for level 19 so where does the 20th one come from?????

Sonia
12-16-2013

The Secrets of Shipbuilding Accessory, but it's extremely hard to obtain (it's not uncommon to find it being sold for billions in Seville). There's a NPC fleet that hangs around Newfoundland waters, I don't remember the name, but it involves a First class vaisseau, that has a low rate of dropping a certain chest when you plunder them and one of the items you could get from the chest is the SoS Accessory. I heard a rumor that the SoS was supposedly nerfed but I cant confirm this.

Steward
12-16-2013

1 for being in high level colony when SB

Mei Hua
02-09-2014

request help. I understand the reason for +/-% of shipbuilding.what I don't get is where or what stage do you do this at.
and is it done with imputing the capacity. and %of what? cargo or total capacity. I played with the numbers on a FS ship and could not achieve a -cargo. any
websites or videos for slow people like me?

Sonia
02-25-2014

+20/-20 is something like this. Say your modding a battle ship to 8/8. Of course At 8/8 you want it -20% cargo for speed and -20% will have a penalty of:
-25 H
-25 V
-5 turn
-5 wave

So when modding change the cargo size from:
1/8 = Max cargo no penalty
2/8 = Min cargo no penalty
3/8 = Max cargo no penalty
4/8 = Min cargo no penalty
5/8 = Max cargo no penalty
6/8 = Min cargo no penalty
7/8 = Max cargo no penalty
8/8 = Min cargo with penalty (-20%). If you have enough extra stats you can do -25% cargo penalty.

Same goes for Trade ships which is the opposite as you want it to have max cargo so at 1/8 you start at min caro no penalty so once you arrive at 8/8 it will be max cargo.

Advebture ships are a lot easier as cargo is not that important. At 8/8 you can just go to min cargo no penalty.

Misun
02-25-2014

ty that makes sense

Cornelia
02-25-2014

Here are some stuff I heard over the years of playing uwo. It's up to you if you belive or not but I'm gonna state it here just in case you might want to try:

1. Gunports - Why people like to max it to 40 when 90% of NC battle ships already have enough gun slots? Only put them if really needed (Skill) and if you are use them on the 1st 3 improvements. Cause higher the mod (6/8, 7/8, 8/8) the higher the rank of sb needs means the lower the chances of getting great success. By the time you reach 6-8/8 you will only be using less FS parts.

2. Colony - They say it's better to mod in Colonies as more people mod in capitals which shares the great success, in Colony you can have it all to yourself.

3. FS Parts - Never use the same FS parts on 2 sraight mods. mix it up like:
1/8 - SSH, SSH
2/8 - SKILL
3/8 - SSH, SSH
4/8 - SKILL

4. Waiting time - Always follow the reqd number of days no more no less. If it says 32 days, pick up your ship after 32 days not 33, 34 and so on.

5. Fleet - Don't fleet with a lot of people modding there ship. as much as possible do it on your own with just the sb r20 with you.

6. ESBR - I don't want to add these as the price might shot-up but using ESBR will have a greater success rate (no waiting of course)

7. Don't add extra imp to your ship 7-8/8 until your done modding it to 6/6.

8. Of course the post above, play witht the cargo size. Last mod is the cargo u want.

Some of this might be true some might be false, really up to you if you want to try. Just sharing what I know. Happy sbing everyone.

Natascha
02-25-2014

Finally something useful

Natascha
02-25-2014

Thanks for the post. Some of this might be true or not but I think it's worth a try.

jperana
05-24-2014

What Ship is the best to train on SB up to R16? i got r8+3 atm

Thanks

jack
05-24-2014

Turkish Galley now require r14 to build...but you can make Sambuk in India

jperana
05-24-2014

Thanks jack.

jack
06-14-2014

How much invest in each city do you guys recommend in ''National trip'' for Shipbuilders?

Snipe
11-12-2014

Apart from the items listed above that give a boast to shipbuilding, there is also the astro non-tradable item Ruqun

Guilder
12-08-2014

Hmm. That's quicker than I thought it would be. Rowing, on the other hand... I hear that skill actually takes a little effort to max out.

H.-Gazi
12-08-2014

Honestly I recommend to use ANY skill proficiency booster that you have (most of them won't stack). It may cost some money, however try to compare it with how many hours you save which can be used for other things. :-)

Further my alt has been doing SB (with break-moments) and I do these steps:
Below Rank 3 - Dhow at Beirut
Rank 3 till 11 - Cutter at Groningen, the Shipyard is very close to the harbour
Rank 12+ Turkish Galley at Algiers, the Shipyard is very close to the commercial district and tavern is really close as well.

Some players prefer to do it with cutters even above rank 12 to save money. Even though Turkish Galley takes way more ducats, but it saves tons of time!

Note: Turkish Galley requires rank 15, so I had +3 SB booster (SoS, saw and expert skill). If you take Ruqun and aide as well, you can start doing this even at rank 10. My aide has too low battle level for those who wonder why I didn't mentioned.

Me
12-08-2014

Try getting say, Unlock or Recognition beyond r10............

Curious
12-08-2014

Only us adventurers know this struggle, eh Me? :P

Piotr
12-09-2014

How much cost grind SB to r16?

H.-Gazi
12-09-2014

That varies on the methods you use Piotr and also if you make use of any boosters. Spending 8 hours on SB per day would take at least 1,5 months and it may cost at least 400m (without ANY boosts).

OjosDeAzul
12-11-2014

It totally depends on how you do it. I also think you're looking at considerably more than 400m if you do it in any kind of time-efficient manner. But the big expenditure is not the money; it's the time. If you're lucky, catch a couple of 2x events and use proficiency amulets, I don't see how you can do it reasonably in under 2 months (unless you are online for the majority of the day).

Madlife
05-14-2015

God has heard the shipbuilder's prayers. From now on, ogp has implemeted 1.5 permanent prof boost

poison
05-14-2015

You know, there are harder skills to grind. Shipbuilding is one of the easier ones, at least if you're patient.

For the record: r20 shipbuilding here, got it back before turkish galleys were r10+4...so there's that.

conflabbit
05-15-2015

Isn't 'time-consuming' very close to the same thing as 'hard' in UWO though? Success often comes down to how much time you're willing to put in rather than genuine skill, yeah?

All I know is that I got from SB base R10 to R12 during the 1.5 boost before they announced it being made permanent and even now I am NOT looking forward to the 40+ hours of idling outside company colony just to get to base R13. I say this as someone who has grinded to base R16 in Fishing, Cooking, Sewing, Casting, Storage, and Handicrafts... would rather do any of those again than get SB to R16.

Me
05-15-2015

As soon as you can hit r12(ie: r10 + 2), you should go to Plymouth to grind Emigrant Barques until you can hit r14, after which you head to Algiers to grind Turkish Galleys until r16 base. And for the sake of those of us who got to r16 base before they lowered the skill requirements on ships like Turkish Galleys from r16 to r14 and had to rely on the occasional skills proficiency multiplier events like poison and I did, please, stop complaining and count yourselves lucky. Also, for an even more grueling skill grind, try Alchemy. Or for something almost as "fun" as SB grind, try getting Unlock or Recognition to r14 base when all there were was the occasional skills proficiency booster event.

IGN: CullumStraun

Destry1
05-15-2015

On the other hand you don't really need unlock or recognition at rank 14 (has anyone tried refining these skills?), but having a higher shipbuilding rank is definitely important.

By the way, I thought all shipbuilders grind shipbuilding while watching movies or working. In that sense it's not very intensive at least, just time- and ducat-consuming.

ice20
05-15-2015

yeah like conflabit said most skill grinds arent hard, just time consuming, and SB still takes longer than most others. as somebody said yes there are some that take longer like alch unlock etc but to call sb one of the easiest is a bit much

also emigrant barques arent necesarily faster than schooners. schooners are slightly faster but require more trips to SY. if your fast when in port schooners are still a tiny bit faster. but theyre both very close.

Murray
05-15-2015

Yes, also when you grind this skill you have to dedicate all your play time for it, at least to be effective, the other skills you mention you can actually play the game while grinding... shipbuilding requires for you to make a couple of clicks every 10 minutes or so and then go afk, its not hard but you actually are not playing the game while grinding

Guilder
05-17-2015

MMOs have, and always will be, time-sinks. To get anywhere in them, requires a good deal of focus; just because there's a permanent skill proficiency boost, doesn't mean people don't still have to work hard to get to their desired goal. Let's be grateful there are those dedicated enough to become R20 shipbuilders, 7-nation or otherwise; it's certainly not for everyone, but the game would be very different without them around.

rokr
12-06-2015

Is it possible to refine this skill?

BIakeC
12-06-2015

No. And it's still not refinable on the Japanese server, so it will be a very long time if they ever decide to make shipbuilding a refinable skill (though considering the insane amount of time needed to max SB prof, the bonus will would have to be awesome to warrant grinding it all over again).

rokr
01-14-2016

How I can convert an Armed merchant ship into a High-speed battle ship? Any suggestions please?

iKnow
01-14-2016

right now your ship is a cross between a cargo and battle ship, you want it to be a cross between an expedition and a battle ship, so throw (expedition) ships at it and see if that changes it to high speed battle. If it changes it to high speed cargo instead, throw (battle) ships at it

rokr
01-14-2016

@iKnow ty sir, I'll try

Ren
02-18-2016

With ducats of no concern is it still faster to do Schooners from the colonies to R14??

BIakeC
02-19-2016

When I was R8+2, I grinded the rest of the way up by building Emigrant Barques at London. It's more expensive, and there's a longer waiting period (12 days compared to 6 for a for a Schooner), but you get a bit more skill prof out of it. But the biggest advantage is you can do it right in Europe without having to sail all the way to a company colony. It's really up to you if it's worth the extra ducats to put in...

Ren
02-19-2016

Would it be easier to mass produce FS parts that require SB?
Something Like Small flush deck style hull

Has anyone tried this Or would the proficiency gain nothing-too low?

Yaknow
02-19-2016

Sadly you do not gain any shipbuilding prof on the recipes that require shipbuilding as the secondary requirement.

Fusion will not gain you any prof either. The only thing I have found that will gain you sb prof is building or modding a ship at the shipyard master.

Bael
06-11-2016

Can someone tell the estimated price to rank SB from r8 to r16?

Trollo
07-09-2016

Is it true that the more cargo (volume) your ship has it acceleration and top speed will be reduced even if sails are maxed and the values (included bonus from studdin sails [ship parts]) remain the same?

For example:

Ship #1
V: 300
H: 300
WR: 15
Turning: 15
Cargo: 500

Ship #2
V:300
H:300
WR: 15
Turning: 15
Cargo: 550


Is ship #1 faster and has better performance than ship #2? From which quantity becomes noticeable speed reduction from cargo room/volume? 10? 20? 30? Any other amount?

gd6noob
07-09-2016

So when I refit.. should I max out the cannon and cabin to reduce cargo?

Yaknow
07-09-2016

You are going to get differing OPINIONS on this one, but most players who have looked at this sort of thing believe that it won't matter and here is why: you basically have three different kinds of cargo and they are crew, cannons, and trade goods. So a simple refit is just moving what goes where, it doesn't change the actual size of the boat in any way.

Xiaois
07-09-2016

If assuming ur cargo is changed due to FS modding, then yes. and only yes if u actually carrying cargo, provisions counts too. It reduces ur max attainable speed which is inturn affected by wave resistance too, the higher the wave resistance the lower the decrease in ur max attaianble speed due to cargo hold

Emma
07-09-2016

Refitting changes the distribution of the ship's volume (crew, gun port, and cargo hold).
And ship's acceleration rate is affected by the ship's volume.

So changing the distribution of the ship volume changes nothing in term of speed.
If we're looking on a different angle, maximizing the gun port will give you some space that is can't be used, which will obviously helps the acceleration rate, but of course you can always do that by bringing few cargo/provisions less than normal.
Every sea have its own speed boost percentage, and having cargo on board will reduce that boost. WR's job is to reduce that penalty.

Miyo
07-09-2016

Also to Troll's question, it depends on the ship entirely.
Schooners have slow acceleration rate, and small volume, so 50 cargo is pretty much huge, -20% and +20% and you're looking at almost doubled sailing time.
Clippers have high acceleration rate, somewhat big volume, -20% and +20% difference is just around 50% sailing time increase.

Xiaois
07-09-2016

TBh the difference isnt That much. The main point of so called ''Fast'' is really because of 50% speed boost.

Obi-Wan
11-20-2016

I feel a disturbance in the force.....a rumor that fleeting with a r20 Shipbuilder for modding ships will no longer get you the best results anymore, that now, to get the best results from FS parts when you are modding a ship or want maximum or minimum cargo from a mod, you either have to BE a r20 Shipbuilding, have at LEAST r12 Shipbuilding when you fleet to an r20 Shipbuilder, OR....turn your(potentially VERY expensive!) ship OVER to a r20 Shipbuilder and have them mod it. Now, given how big a pain in the arse Shipbuilding is to grind up, and that there aren't many with the stamina to get the skill to r12 let alone r20, this would create a HUGE potential for scammers to rob players of their high-end ships or switch them out for "less successful" modding attempts of the same model ship. I seriously hope that this rumor isn't true, because if it is, I forsee BIG problems in the game VERY soon.....

Guilder
11-20-2016

The thing about rumors? People can often get worked up about them, only to find out they were never true to begin with. I've not heard anything about this striking the shipbuilders I know of, and by that same token, wouldn't ALL production skills be likely to get hit, instead of just the one? Seems fishy to me.

Juicebox
04-10-2017

I've read in SB'er guides there is a better chance of success when you are a R20 SB'er yourself however... Most times 90% of the time imo if your build is good you won't need this extra boost. Only for repairing failed builds or if you're a cheap bastard and are skimping on Astro parts when you need them etc.. Then you better give to a trusted SB'er but other than that a simple R20 fleet is cool

Juicebox
04-10-2017

The "How to make money with Shipbuilding Guide" I'm almost done writing it. As soon as the GM unbans my forum account later this week HOPEFULLY I'll upload it and post the link here. :D

Blake.C
04-11-2017

As someone whose modded ships with R20 SB, both with own toon, and leeching the skill off someone else, I can say there IS a greater chance of success when you do it yourself rather the leeching the skill off, and can make quite a difference. However, for non PvP, non astros ships, this extra boost isn't really that necessary. Only when your out competing with other players does that extra boost can make the difference between staying afloat and being sunk.

rokr
05-11-2017

Does anyone have information about this option: "Set Special hull effect"?

Battousai
05-11-2017

"Set Special hull effect" is used in other servers as a slot to insert a permanent cosmetic aura item. Its a tradeable cash shop item there.

Guilder
08-02-2017

This month, Japanese UWO players get access to something very interesting:

www.gamecity.ne.jp/dol/topics_cms/update/6292.html

Looks as if shipbuilding in the future will be faster, easier, and oh yeah, the limits on upgrading a ship will be changing as well. Quite a bit.

For GAMA, these changes are a year or so off. Should be interesting to watch them unfold in the months to come, though. Cheers.

YoGolan
08-03-2017

Let`s stop living in future, we are in present and no one knows if we "arrive" in future! so enjoy your present

Bael
08-03-2017

Guilder's glance to future content is very welcome, we are able to prepare our game-style for what's coming, and as example you have the SYr3, companies were practically ready to build it before the update came.

Guilder
08-03-2017

I used to be a voyager just like you, YG. But then I took an arrow... wait, no. 2nd Age arrived, bringing with it multiple unexpected changes, not all of which I liked. I learned from ReaD and others on the UWO DB the value of watching future game content so as to never be taken by off guard by it again; in turn, I share some of my findings to try and help others enjoy the game as much as I do, and to prepare them for upcoming content, be it good, or (as was the case of vanished Atlantis) bad.

It's difficult to say whether or not the upgrades to Shipbuilding will be added into GAMA, for now. But we did end up with 98% of Atlantis' content, and a lot of the big deal Age of Revolution content has made it in so far as well (Shipyard R3). The changes I see listed would benefit both players and developers/hosters in many ways, too. But time alone will tell, I suppose. Cheers.

Aguirre
01-19-2018

Is there a recommendation on how much to invest in each nation's territory before defecting to another nation?

Thanks in advance

Blake.C
01-19-2018

At least 5 mil per port.

Kosevo
01-22-2018

My 7-nation investment quota from what I was taught:
5 mil per territorial shipyard ports.
2 mil per territorial non-shipyard ports.

RvZ
01-28-2018

Waiting for someone to win Argos' Shipbuilding Records

Amuroray
02-26-2018

does the best grinding ship is still schooner exp perday wise and cutter money wise ?

long time no play here son i wonder if it's still same or there are new ships more worthy for grinding SB other than those 2

Caddy
02-27-2018

it really depends on what your objectives are.

Schooners are good up to about r14 or so, when you can build Turkish Galleys (although TGs are much more ducat loss per unit XP, they are great for proficiency). The only problem with schooners is short build time, so it's a lot of going into/out of the colony. This is especially the case with the Efficient SB construction oxford skill, which cuts all ship build times in half (highly recommended for anyone wanting to grind their SB skill).

Cutters is the old way to grind SB, I don't really recommend it much from my personal perspective, as schooners is better proficiency per day.

There is one ship you also might consider, Emigrant Barque. It's about 700k loss per build but short build times and good prof for building, so it's worth considering. This ship used to only be available to be built by English players. Whenever they lifted the investment requirement for building SY ships, this became available to other players.

Blake.C
02-27-2018

There's also Sambuks in Calicut. While it takes slightly longer to grind with and a bit more expensive then Cutters, the 12 day wait period fits nicely for those who like to go AFK while grinding; I know many SBs end up over-shooting/over-waiting the required the 6 day build for Schooners when going AFK. It all depends how involved you'd like to be and much your willing to spend to max SB.

Amuroray
02-27-2018

well sambuk is not best proficiency nor money , time management is no poblem with me even with the 3 mnts interval so i don't think i will do sambuk but thx for the info.

my aim if proficiency and money , that's why i'm doing schooner till now (still r7) and plan to do cutter to save money later till turkish galley , the different of time to lvl is about 20% between cutter and schooner (schooner faster of course ) but the money loss for schooner is almost double and at latest rank that mean almost 200-300 mil difference

this is my understanding of old sb way , looks like it still goes on now , i will check that Emigrant Barque though and compare the prof and money eficiency , thx for the info , and where can i build this Emigrant Barque ?

Terra
02-27-2018

Times you change capacity of your ship.

Modding
Grading
And putting on an original ship skill?????

Blake.C
02-27-2018

Emigrant Barques can be built in London. No investment required.

Amuroray
02-28-2018

ok ths again :)

Guilder
04-07-2019

+2 outfits:

Josephine's Clothes - female-only
Prince Henrique's Clothes - male-only

Availability on Maris will depend on PapayaPlay and KOEI-Tecmo, naturally.

Guilder
03-19-2020

+2 Accessory: Sea Monster's Ring

Guilder
09-14-2020

+2 Weapon-slot item:

Bangasa

+1 Body-slot:
Speclator Chokha

Bael
12-11-2020

To whoever might serve

To rank SB from r7 to Max r16 it took:
209 ESBRs, 4 Charm Boxes and 210m Ducats

The proficiency gain on Venetian Galleass at 200% was like this:

r7 - 351
r8 - 402
r9 - 453
r10 - 504
r11 - 552
r12 - 603 - (100% 402)
r13 - 654
r14 - 705
r15 - 756

Caddy
07-07-2021

Hey guys,

It's been a long time. Hope everyone is doing well and that you've all "weathered the storm" of the past year or so. Just dropping a quick line to say that I'm on long term hiatus from UWO, hope to come back one of these days. Give my best to the community and you guys take care. If anyone needs me, Roiber knows how to get in touch. Please say hello to [GM]Sheebs for me as well, he's a great GM. All the best,

[CA]CadillacShrimpin

Guilder
07-07-2021

Cheers mate, nice to hear from you. Hope you'll return someday soon; you're one of the good ones. Great offline voyages to you.

CA-RvZ
12-06-2022

+1 Body: Literary Youth Hakama (male-only)