Igor
03-08-2014

The nc users aren't fags but if they arent satisfied with a buy for NC to balance the game then yes you are a fa. IF opg decides to balance the game by removing forge tools abd you still aren't happy then yrs you are a fag and if you cheated with 5 alts to cheat and get forge tools then you are a fag get the buy out and the fucking hell up

Cornelia
03-08-2014

I'm sorry, but only faggots on this server think forge tools are "not balanced". The tools are on all the real servers, but the crybaby American gamers want the game handed to them like World of Warcraft. So they confused OGP (easy to do) into thinking there is something wrong with a natural part of the game. If you are a faggot who wants to take away a part of the game -other peoples hard work- then fuck you and go back to playing WoW

Jean
03-08-2014

Forge tools aren't balanced even the fucking Asian server shut down because of forge tools and alot of Asian players left to come to OUR server because it's not infested wit the tools face it NOBODY LIKES THEM FAGGOT so its not just the American server so shut the fuck up accept the buy out if you can't compete with "interior" American players without a pay to win option then obviously you're not that superior and you're a pussy

Igor
03-08-2014

I find that logic of yours to be rather "interior", Jean. Also, which Asian server exactly?

Misun
03-08-2014

You know it was a typo "inferior" was the word I meant and the server that shut down due to forge gear corruption was the Chinese server it had to be completely rebooted due to morons like you who spammed the tools and most of those Chinese are HERE IN GAMA NOW so do your research before you talk shit you forge tool dependent cowardly untalented piece of shit faggot don't turn our server into the failed Chinese forge tool infested one

Io
03-08-2014

omg such BS from the "its not fair" crybabies. The asian servers were not shut down. The Chinese server had to be closed and given to another provider and it had nothing to do with forge tools. Japan has 2 servers and you can acquire the forge tools in game through hard work. You know, that thing people on gama bitch about. Learn to play the game and appreciate it for what it is. Don't change it into a WoW clone with everything made easy and no reward of power for vet players who work hard to get skills and gear. The best way to balance the game now is to put the tools back into the astro shop so everyone has a chance to get them

Mei Hua
03-08-2014

Pay to win faggot why cant you win without the tools? Just answer that is that the only way you can compete?

Nicola
03-08-2014

I hope none of the anti-tool crybabies use NC ships or Delphin gaff/storm sails or speed boosters because that is all "pay-to-win". Hypocritical faggots.

Nina
03-08-2014

I think it's a bit harsh to call the people who don't understand the game mechanics, crybabies, and it's not right to call the people who want the game to be the same as the original, faggots. The bottom line is only a few overly-vocal people made a stink about them because they don't understand how to counter them and how the game naturally progresses. It's really not a big deal. But it is being made a big deal when the GM's listen to the wrong people and now we have this imbalance. Put the tools back in the game. Put them back in the shop. Don't screw people out of a good balanced game.

Censor
03-08-2014

i think that the request for a balanced game is legitimate, and that the valiant should be rewarded more than the one who spent lots of money...and comments like some of the above i have seen is just the mark of arrogance of ppl who debase the value of this community...But i understand that for keeping alive a game ,money of players are needed and dunno own a server to be run to ban all the NC stuff. So i can just say let's forget uthopism, but work for a compromise where pay2win is not all...For sure TB reintroduction is not goin in this sense, and gave a lots of troubles with antivirus/game guard cause poor scripting. Maybe some do not agree, and i spare comments like "get a life" or "visit a mercenary partner to unleash yr frustrations", but the margin for ppl to get competitive and play all careers at higest lvl without recurring at RL cash has become too tiny. And that's a shame cause this games philosophy seemeth to go in the other sense.And was one of his strongest point of value...cannot refrain anyway to say that i miss that somehow. if someone wanna be superman at every cost i will give gladly the address of a needle to sew him/her a coat so at least their money will be spent for something tangible

Censor
03-08-2014

to make my previous discourse more propositive i could make some examples i think could be worth of discussion and thinking about:
1- raise a bit the requirements of NC version of ships to be sailed...i think outrageous that a normal ironsides requires the considerable 70battle lvl and a FIS or MIS just41max if they goes to 52-55 i think nobody will be argue (apart noobs aspiring powerplayers).
2- diversificate more the events: ESF is something that gives court ranks,means more power and vault spaces....then ban all the nc ships and stuff from thefights and make BC even more heavily PVP inclined where stuff like NC is not only allowed but more necessary with a similar formula of ESF
3- i strongly dislike godgunz and godsword, cause they means you wanna an advantage without having skill...a serious cannoneer if has skill maxed and simply mastergunz will kill ya anyway with one shot in the bow...so why needing em?polish you skills and try again thx. Wanna use em, keep em for BC if you can't refrain to unleash yr testosteron.
4- sadly too many around, but all the gen coats or similar stuff people have are bought, not earned completing memorial album...give em a shot, but no more of them or similar in TB thanks. Let's people sweat a bit to have such prizes and go to plunder/search items at 4 corners of the world!The few rlly skilled crafters here around can make better gear but the overload of nc stuff precludes em markets cause everyone wants something that makes him feel/be better than he/she really is.
5- Worst of all are the tools that grants a GS in making something, cause that has become the definitive killing of traders and crafter profession...glad they removed them. NO MORE PLS. Nowadays many ppl have crafting skills just for beauty and to boast "i'm good"...
Do not think this is whining or being extremist, just thinking that with some small limit pay2win followers and "purists" of the game can cohexist without always bringing themselves to hostility lvls that are unpolite and unbearable. If both renounce to something i think all we get along better
if we decide where a limit could be fixed, why always the need to bypass it?

Shirin
03-09-2014

The "free" to play business model is the problem. It's a lie. It's a scam. Ain't nothin free. And I don't just mean this game. They found they can make more money off of impulse buys then subscriptions because people are stupid and have no self control. It's exploiting human nature. It's greed pure and simple.

Steward
03-09-2014

Greed ? You're an idiot so the publisher paying to keep the server is a scam? Even though subscription and F2P generate the SAME Amount of income if everyone pays 15 per month to generate 100mil its the same thing as 1000 people gamble to make 100mil SAME FUCKING THING you dunb fuck

Cornelia
03-09-2014

lots of other games out there if your not happy playing this one

Catx
03-09-2014

Shirin go make your own game. The game would be free if there was no cost to make em. You should be happy that someone else paid so you could have a free server.

Forge tools arent OP. Noobs are OP, there's too many noobs and they kept their mouth shouting all day instead of start grinding and slap forge tool users.

Viking died, ElysiumVI died, no forge tool user lives forever.

Naoyasu
03-09-2014

I love how some of you see the writing on the wall for forging gear and just can't stand it. If it doesn't matter for the game to have them, why does it matter for the game NOT to have them? Whether you like to admit it or not it unbalances the game. To a degree that it would seem OGP is in favor of getting rid of them altogether.

Steward
03-09-2014

That's the issue even with fully trained skills and superior tactics they STILL could not compete with these forge tool users unless they bought the tools aswell in addition the cannons killed the fun and complexity of sea battle by making it 1 or 2 hit kill. Should never HAVE to buy an item to compete especially in a FREE TO PLAY GAME everyone needs an equal chance without spending money. Also they are ALOT of forge gear users still running around RC, PAC all known for using sorry to those companies not trying to start a flame war just stating a fact that forge users still exist and in great number.

Catx
03-09-2014

Naoyasu is a noob and probadly never managed to beat a forge user.

Viking isnt the only player to have forged weapon. There's many many many many more forge weapon user than you think, but most of them are too weak to make their forged weapon noticeable, they're so weak that you thought they used normal weapon, but only when you take a closer look that you realize they were using forged.

Im not in favor of keepking the tools. But its been months that the smithy tools have been discussed for. And its gona take another while to get them fixed. OGP and their GMs make their decision, not the noobs, so meanwhile please keep your mouth shut for a better gameplay, stop whining.

TRUTH
03-09-2014

In a free to play enviorment their will always be boosts you can buy with rl cash.

If the tools were still around everyone would stop QQ'ing. When they were obtainable in game, alot did.. Now their gone and resellers QQing more.

People havn't sailed like you pretend to think for a long time now. Its not just the forge tools. I sail through lawless waters/hostile waters daily rarley do i see people.. At the moment EA should be slam packed with grinders. not that many really.

Kicker
03-09-2014

Because we're having ESF, ESF over and the sea's packed full again

Rembmer when EA was newly opened ? 80 players found on search. Ppl have done what they need to do in EA (open dungeon...) so there's less

f.ck dungeons btw

Trayvon
04-20-2014

I got 5 of these from the Spring event

tare
04-20-2014

Are they from tickets from the event or as a reward directly due to Spring Power ?

BaseLine
04-20-2014

From ticket

Me
04-20-2014

From which ticket were these obtained, the Anniversary Ticket. or the Voyagers Ticket(No. 2)? Or is this simply a troll to either A)-get players to open Tickets(to what end i can't say), or B)-re-open the controversy surrounding these things again. My views on these can be found in the OGP forum.

IGN: CullumStraun aka The White Tiger, Director - new_world_company, Lisbon

tare
04-20-2014

Trayvon posted and BaseLine replied. Two different person ?

Sanco
04-20-2014

two trolls... according jap. wiki, there are no forging tools in spring event

tare
04-20-2014

Trayvon posted and BaseLine replied. Two different person ?

CptJAubrey
12-31-2015

WTB some Weapons Forging Tools. I dont know how much should i offer - i dont know these days price. If you have some, let me know please... IGN: SirJackAubrey or CptJAubrey. Thank you!

Guilder
03-09-2017

Guess what? They're baaaaaaaaaack.

Source: wiki.ogplanet.com/uwo/index.php?title=Astronomy_and_Discovery_Premium_Bottle

H.-Gazi
03-09-2017

Few things to note:
1) They are NOT tradeable till the next patch.
2) They will improve up to +15 attack power from their base power, each use adds +1.

I wish they didn't nerfed it... :x