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- Jafar
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- oh so you want someone to chat a GM on your behalf ( 01510021 )
- ReaD
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- (BlindA) ( 85000064 )
- Lancelot
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- but every production process involves sailing to get the different ingredients or to where recipe is available , a long time ago (before the dungeons opened) i used to make mct in Ceylon- nobody was willing to pay over the odds just for my sailing time or contending with pirates (another reason ive had from SB for extra costs) ( 50000119 )
- Carla
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- no ( 01100024 )
- ShitaiA
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- re: Meng Meng 10m for basic ship +2m each - sail, workshop, gun port = 16m 12min to build = smoke/coffee break when i get that SB rank i sell this 25m tops ---------------------------------------------------------------------- yea.. please get yourself go quick, max your sb rank and sell them for the lovely 25m. You don't know nothing about economics, demand and supply. Not even the basic of SB. base price of SB is about 10m, adding cargo makes it to more or less 11.5-12m. Then when you build a ship.. you should have use 5 ship parts: 1 ship hull (~4m), 1 gunport (~1m), 1 sail (~2m), 1 workshop (2~3m), and a large mast (~2m). That makes the ship to ~25m cost to build already... And then you need 40-50 minutes to sail between EU and caribbean. sell price of 30mil = 5 mil prof for 40-50 minutes???? Do you know the demand/supply? how many of this ship you can sell a day? lets not talk able the alchemy. it is am exception in game. The market, demand and supply for alchemy are entilely different from other job. Lets talk about the common econ envioment. How much you can get from a EU dungeon for 50 minutes? how much you can get from a spice/gems run? how much cost/price for those 21/24/-1, 22/25/-1 sails. gloves,helemts,cannons? Why would SBer have to make less the common economics? SBer has put months to the grind with no life in game. Lossing about 250-300m for r1-max, and something like (2.5 months X 8 hrs per day). If you put this in to spice/dungeons runs..... you could get 5b+++ ducats.. So the lose of grinding would weight as losing 5b for max rank. It is so f$%^$^%ing rude to say selling a ship for 5m, 10m profit is a rip off. Since you can never sell the ships as quick as you go and sell spices/dungeon loots. GOOD LUCK finding a SB. ( 50000119 )
- Kicker
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- how do i get this quest? the Consul isnt talking to me... i have west coast latin permits so im lost... ( 99997813 )
- Chester
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- wow what a total and complete french shower you are (go look it up) ( 01510021 )
- Kicker
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- its "Supply and Demand" Not Demand and Supply idiot ( 50000119 )
- ShitaiA
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- BTW, if you enjoy making ship parts for a little more profit.. good for you too. Enjoy spending another few months to grind the skills to r12~15 so you can make your own ship parts, enjoy sailing over the world for hrs to get the mats, then switch to different jobs in order to use your r12~ 15 handi/storage/sewing/casting to make this ship parts, to fill your inventories. The sail back to EU to switch your job back to SB and sail around to build a lovely ship for your lovely 25m! ( 50000119 )
- Sakura
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- my time is worth something too, or are you saying your time is worth something because your a SB, but mine isnt because im not. ive maxed my production skills , i sail around alot , i have to change jobs from Tailor/Blacksmith/Artisan/Artificer and even though people state im the cheapest theyv'e seen, they still try and barter a better deal-thats the nature of the game... ( 50000119 )
- ShitaiA
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- re: Kicker its "Supply and Demand" Not Demand and Supply idiot ------------------------------------------------------------ so what? stop being rude. I am not a native english speaker. Go mind your own business ( 50000119 )
- Lisa
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- @ShitaiA i dnt have to stop being rude cause i find great enjoyment seeing people get pissed off cause its hilarious how easy can get pissed off =) ( 50000119 )
- Chester
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- Look if you want to sell your boats for next to no profit go ahead! But you seem really angry at the rest of the game for selling them at "rip off" prices. Hey maybe you can single handedly revolutionize pricing in the game! Or maybe you'll burn yourself out making almost zero money for all your time and I'll repeat, the game will NOT appreciate you wearing yourself out to sell them a boat for half price. They'll still want you to knock 5-10 mil off of your price cause it's just "unfair" that they should have to pay twice what ivyro says it costs to make the boat. Your time is worth something, nobody has said it isn't. You're the one trying to cut the market so I don't understand what the hell you're even talking about anymore. ( 50000119 )
- Nina
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- @ ShitaiA " Do you know the demand/supply? how many of this ship you can sell a day?" so your telling me the number you can sell per day effects the price you sell the ship for example: if only one sale =40-50m but if more sales per day = the price comes down? ( 50000119 )
- Nina
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- anyone knows?? ( 99997477 )
- Meng Meng
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- Is going to be available the 21 of this month!! GAMA is getting TA Panama update (with memorial album) DAYUMMM ( 01800342 )
- Hernan
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- you didn't discovered panama city and portobelo. ( 99997813 )
- Laurencio
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- Ah! panama was the factor >.< ok i just look at my map and apperently i discover all of west latin beside panama!! thx ( 99997813 )
- ShitaiA
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- You can think about it that way. But it wasn't my original idea. If I can get more the 1 ship order sailing to the same place. It saves my time for the sailing, so I don't mind to offer a discount. My original mind/idea is how much money you can make from the SBing over a certain time, and compare it with other money making activity (spice/dungeons). It is how much money you can earn from this job. If you are a full time SBer, you will possibly getting like 1~2 ship orders per day (sometimes even 0), or maybe some money for fleeting. But you have to stand by/waiting for orders. Or You can make some TLG or others to put at bazaar (but they fill your ship slots). Sor for this kind of pure sb work, ideally you can get about 20-40m per night (6 hrs). So you see what I mean? you can do dungeons/spice runs for this amount of time and make more money/exp then SB. You could do some dungeons to get abit more money while waiting for orders, but then you might need to keep switching between jobs as well. SBer doesnt make that much money that ppl imagine with, and they have had made a big loss in time/money from maxing it already. 5-10mil profit per ship is not a lot of profit. That why you are seeing less and less SBer around (except those SB alt toons), or some works for company/friends only. Cos it is not fun/that great profit for time vs fun vs sb money vs dungeons/spice etc. ( 50000119 )
- ShitaiA
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- more then 1 ship order* ( 50000119 )