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Medium Storm Sail
Thick and sturdy medium-sized sail.
Used in strong winds.- 10∼202∼4
Standard
Shipwreck
Ingredients
Carla11-18-2011
Ship Type - All
Ship Size - Standard
Improve Horizontal sail +10 ~ +20
Improve Wave Resist +2 ~ +4
Found in Shipwreck
Ship Size - Standard
Improve Horizontal sail +10 ~ +20
Improve Wave Resist +2 ~ +4
Found in Shipwreck
Carla11-18-2011
Ship Type - All
Ship Size - Standard
Improve Horizontal sail +10 ~ +20
Improve Wave Resist +2 ~ +4
Found in Shipwreck
Ship Size - Standard
Improve Horizontal sail +10 ~ +20
Improve Wave Resist +2 ~ +4
Found in Shipwreck
Caminha07-05-2012
i have one. send a tell with a reasonalbe offer ;D
Claudia09-30-2012
How much is this?
Natascha09-30-2012
50 mil
Holfina09-30-2012
50mil my arse, go find one for 50mil
Nicola09-30-2012
bought one in a bazaar for 3 million once, resold it for 90 million. its true value i have no idea
Rashid10-01-2012
I sold my for 50, and I see other buying/selling them for 50
Lisa10-01-2012
50m? Really? :D:D:D
Meng Meng10-01-2012
yes...
Igor01-15-2013
WTF....50M@_@ guyz u are on the wrong page again......150-200M
Jafar01-15-2013
you were in the wrong page =,= check when did they reply. all before EA open.
also, it doesnt worth that much and nobody will spend that much on a medium size sail. Send on what? a noob ship? or esf ship that will only be used for 3 hours a month? 50-100m seems a reasonable price nowaday but still, not many ppl will want to pay for it.
also, it doesnt worth that much and nobody will spend that much on a medium size sail. Send on what? a noob ship? or esf ship that will only be used for 3 hours a month? 50-100m seems a reasonable price nowaday but still, not many ppl will want to pay for it.
Nicola01-15-2013
one of my friend sold for 150M and another 200M. so STFU
Hernan01-15-2013
it is obvious some crazy ppl want to inflate the price. you stfu.
Jafar01-16-2013
@Nicola
If you don't know how to talk with manner. I give you back your words. I can always claim/ask a very high price as I want. But there is a market supply/demand and whether it worths or not. So you should read my comments more carefully, and clearly before you shout out without manner. Or STFU.
If you don't know how to talk with manner. I give you back your words. I can always claim/ask a very high price as I want. But there is a market supply/demand and whether it worths or not. So you should read my comments more carefully, and clearly before you shout out without manner. Or STFU.
Sylvia01-16-2013
This item is far worse than D-Storm. I would say 50m is the maximum of what people should pay considering its rareness.
Steward01-19-2013
@Jafar:i didnt say they are selling, i said they sold. if u dont know english dont be useless and dont spam here. and dont talk to me about reading carefully before u do. btw if u think that it's price is 50M, then sell me 2k at 25M each. but i doubt that the ones who said "its 50M worth" will have 1. they are only poor noobs that try to make the prices go down so they can buy and mod their barcas. ignore them. and this sail isnt only for improving esf ships, it can improve alot of ships.
P.S:tell me if u didn't realize ur an idiot, ill help you.
P.S:tell me if u didn't realize ur an idiot, ill help you.
Emma01-20-2013
some noobies think its worth 50m. no prob, sell me some for 50m then! i want it :D
Cornelia01-20-2013
can someone show me the website, book, paper, spreadsheet or whatever that has the prices of everything on it. Every item, ship or whatever in the game does not have a specific price on it, except for things bought from the in game npcs. If someone wants to sell it for 50m, than to them its worth 50m. If they want to sell it for 500m than to them its worth 500m. All this back and forth "noob because he/she doesnt know the price" there is NO set price. Players raise and drop the prices.
Lewis01-20-2013
lol cornelia.
the price of something is how much someone is going to pay for that.
i was pointing out to the fact some noobies just seem to overlook this specific item, the medium storm sail, is way more valuable than a mere 50m.
the price of something is how much someone is going to pay for that.
i was pointing out to the fact some noobies just seem to overlook this specific item, the medium storm sail, is way more valuable than a mere 50m.
Maria01-20-2013
i sold one for 50m (max at comp shop) and im not sorry about it. Go ahead and yell for days in sevi just to get 2-3x more, i can get whole lot more money doing something else in that time. This is at best only useful for ESF ships which is not something needed every day so dont call ppl noobs when ur the noob trying to get alot from something pretty much useless. Besides in ESF you need high dura and turn not wave...
.......01-20-2013
wow ok,then better sell an AFCV now at 3-5B cause i dont wanna wait 1 more hour to get 10-15B on it...smart&moneymanking....nice noob. AAND several ships can be modded with this,not only ESF ones.....
Hans01-20-2013
If that is what the player wants to get for the AFCV than so be it. There is no set price tag on player traded/sold items. It all depends on the person selling/trading the item on what they want for it.
Sophia01-20-2013
in this game,its all about getting money,so...............
Nicola01-20-2013
That is one's opinion on the game. Again not everyone has that view about money.
Enver02-22-2013
WTB PM me DustyB
Natascha02-22-2013
WTB PM me Ensign
Lisa02-22-2013
I've seen DustyB in Seville a lot is that an alt or a main?
5percentoff02-22-2013
Just because someone is "seen" a lot in Seville doesn't mean he's a reseller
Just Because someone is shouting continuously doesn't mean he's a reseller
Just because someone is a reseller doesn't mean he will rip you off
You will never lose money until you have sold something you bought at a higher price for a lower price
Just because there are player comments here doesn't mean it is all TRUE
Use your own judgement!
Regards,
5% OFF
Just Because someone is shouting continuously doesn't mean he's a reseller
Just because someone is a reseller doesn't mean he will rip you off
You will never lose money until you have sold something you bought at a higher price for a lower price
Just because there are player comments here doesn't mean it is all TRUE
Use your own judgement!
Regards,
5% OFF
Sophia02-22-2013
But if I won a ship from TB, you offer me 4b then you sell for 10b when I could have sold it for 10b myself if I spend another few hours or even a few days, then I'm clearly ripped off, I cannot earn the 6b difference in a few hours or even a few days.
Lancelot02-22-2013
Meaning you cannot argue "but reseller earn the price difference because of their time and efforts" your sitting around and pressing ctr+v to paste your shout does not warrant billions and billions of commission if you can call it that.
Jean02-22-2013
Point to take home, if there are players willing to pay a certain fair price, sell it to them, not to resellers who would then sell it to them for that price or for a higher price --- If ETC tickets are worth roughly 4b then find someone who will buy it at that price, don't sell it to resellers who are trying to convince you "it has been on TB 3 times in a row no one paying 4b now sell it to me for 2b do yourself a favor" then 2 minutes after the trade reseller shouts for 4.5b and get it sold lol!
Francine02-22-2013
DustyB is my main
Laurencio02-22-2013
WTB this PM me ign DustyB
Li Yue02-22-2013
Yes I've had resellers telling me FLC is 3.5-4b and FLFS is 5b or so...
Also forgot the guy's name but someone was constantly shouting:
WTB Dstorm 200m
WTS Dgaff at 1b
I do not doubt he has another alt who's one of those shouting
WTS Dstorm 330m
WTB Dgaff 750m
Their greed is disgusting.
Also forgot the guy's name but someone was constantly shouting:
WTB Dstorm 200m
WTS Dgaff at 1b
I do not doubt he has another alt who's one of those shouting
WTS Dstorm 330m
WTB Dgaff 750m
Their greed is disgusting.
Li Yue02-22-2013
Yes I've had resellers telling me FLC is 3.5-4b and FLFS is 5b or so...
Also forgot the guy's name but someone was constantly shouting:
WTB Dstorm 200m
WTS Dgaff at 1b
I do not doubt he has another alt who's one of those shouting
WTS Dstorm 330m
WTB Dgaff 750m
Their greed is disgusting.
Also forgot the guy's name but someone was constantly shouting:
WTB Dstorm 200m
WTS Dgaff at 1b
I do not doubt he has another alt who's one of those shouting
WTS Dstorm 330m
WTB Dgaff 750m
Their greed is disgusting.
Ming Mei02-22-2013
Who said FLC is 3.5-4b? Bartolomeo? Friend said he tried to trade MNG (roughly the 3.5-4b price?) for FLC.
5percentoff02-22-2013
Don't bite on us.
The truth is, all so-called "real price" are "speculations". Price is ever-changing according to market reactions and gameplay conditions. Basic supply and demand theory means, if supply is high the price will drop, if demand is high the price will rise, and I think you can figure out how it works.
If you sold to me 4b, you have made a bone fide decision. If you have done your research, market survey and analysis and you are of the judgment that it should be 10b, then you can always maintain to sell at 10b. No one can force you to sell at a lower price if you don't want to.
(If)When I bought your ship at 4b, I am looking for a buyer willing to buy at a higher price. If I can find one buying at 10b, and you can't find one, you can't accuse me of being greed(or scamming you), because you would have sold it too at 10b if you still have the ship and if you can find such a willing buyer. So if I am greed, doesn't that makes you greed too?
The difference is I can find someone willing to buy at 10b and you can only find someone willing to buy at 4b. No one is ripping off no one here, because you make you own decision (think with your brain) and do your own trading.
The truth is, all so-called "real price" are "speculations". Price is ever-changing according to market reactions and gameplay conditions. Basic supply and demand theory means, if supply is high the price will drop, if demand is high the price will rise, and I think you can figure out how it works.
If you sold to me 4b, you have made a bone fide decision. If you have done your research, market survey and analysis and you are of the judgment that it should be 10b, then you can always maintain to sell at 10b. No one can force you to sell at a lower price if you don't want to.
(If)When I bought your ship at 4b, I am looking for a buyer willing to buy at a higher price. If I can find one buying at 10b, and you can't find one, you can't accuse me of being greed(or scamming you), because you would have sold it too at 10b if you still have the ship and if you can find such a willing buyer. So if I am greed, doesn't that makes you greed too?
The difference is I can find someone willing to buy at 10b and you can only find someone willing to buy at 4b. No one is ripping off no one here, because you make you own decision (think with your brain) and do your own trading.
Natascha02-22-2013
I guess all the hate against resellers is how they convince and deceive.
5percentoff02-22-2013
@Natascha
I admit that we usually try to "convince" our sellers because this is how bargaining works in trading.
But when you said "deceive", I would want to ask, where is the deception? Do you mean we buy your ship at 2b "knowing" that it will sell at 4b?
When we buy your ship at 2b, we can't actually be sure (100% sure) that it will sell at 4b, we are taking a business risk! There can be instances where suddenly so many people are selling that ship and there's no demand for that ship, even if we offer it at 1b, no one wants it. So, there's no deception here, only different jugdments by different traders. "Reseller" (although it seems to be a derogative term) exist in the real world too, and there's no greed/fair reseller, there's only good/bad reseller. Of course we would try to buy at the lowest price and sell at the highest price, this is how business works. This is not communism, it is free trading.
I admit that we usually try to "convince" our sellers because this is how bargaining works in trading.
But when you said "deceive", I would want to ask, where is the deception? Do you mean we buy your ship at 2b "knowing" that it will sell at 4b?
When we buy your ship at 2b, we can't actually be sure (100% sure) that it will sell at 4b, we are taking a business risk! There can be instances where suddenly so many people are selling that ship and there's no demand for that ship, even if we offer it at 1b, no one wants it. So, there's no deception here, only different jugdments by different traders. "Reseller" (although it seems to be a derogative term) exist in the real world too, and there's no greed/fair reseller, there's only good/bad reseller. Of course we would try to buy at the lowest price and sell at the highest price, this is how business works. This is not communism, it is free trading.
Jean02-22-2013
You mentioned about the real world. Resellers cause so much problem in the real world, especially in real estates. Sure they might suffer losses in the end but often overheated real estate "bubbles" burst because resellers get too greedy suddenly everyone realize the price is unreasonable and no one buying no more.
Carla02-22-2013
5%off ---> Bottom line is, many players don't hoard NC ships/sails that they do not need for investment, nor do they sit around seville weeks on end shouting non-stop, meaning without resellers people will sell and buy at lower prices, meaning that inflation will overall be less of a problem and there will be a lesser need to grind dungeons for so long and new players wouldn't be fck'd up so badly etc. You guys responsible for starting a cycle of inflation that everyone else need to adjust and adapt to.
Natascha02-22-2013
Agree, in many countries the government tries to combat resellers, like extra tax on properties that are resold within a short period or applied on owners with more than 1-2 properties, also hoarding properties to push up the market gets taxed and in some european countries the government can forcibly allow people to move in (used as public housing) all in all resellers are hated.
5percentoff02-22-2013
@Jean
When trading, there are two types of people:
1. Knows the market, done research, done analysis and make sound market assessment.
2. Doesn't know the market, just hearsay from other people what's the "current" price and market condition.
It is due to the abundance of type 2 traders that caused the "real property" boom. They keep believing that the price of "real property" will rise and they keep buying at inflated price, so the market price when up!
When we buy something, we make an investment, we take risk. Not scamming, just investing and speculating.
When trading, there are two types of people:
1. Knows the market, done research, done analysis and make sound market assessment.
2. Doesn't know the market, just hearsay from other people what's the "current" price and market condition.
It is due to the abundance of type 2 traders that caused the "real property" boom. They keep believing that the price of "real property" will rise and they keep buying at inflated price, so the market price when up!
When we buy something, we make an investment, we take risk. Not scamming, just investing and speculating.
5percentoff02-22-2013
Are you saying that investment not allowed is a good thing?
Are you saying that people should only buy a ship when they need it and must use that ship and cannot resell?
Do you think everyone will follow your law?
Do you think this will change the UWO for a better gaming experience? What is the "ideal" gaming experience, define it.
Do you think ship prices selling lower is a good thing?
Do you really think people will do dungeon less because the prices of ships has become low?
Do you think there's someone who you can refer to and always give you an accurate ship market price?
Are you saying that people should only buy a ship when they need it and must use that ship and cannot resell?
Do you think everyone will follow your law?
Do you think this will change the UWO for a better gaming experience? What is the "ideal" gaming experience, define it.
Do you think ship prices selling lower is a good thing?
Do you really think people will do dungeon less because the prices of ships has become low?
Do you think there's someone who you can refer to and always give you an accurate ship market price?
Holfina02-22-2013
Guys let's not argue further, those topics are irrelavent, just know this...... IF RESELLER IS WILLING TO BUY AT A CERTAIN PRICE THEY THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO RESELL IT AT A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER PRICE...... What does that say? It says if you just want it nice and easy or if you urgently need your ducats then sure sell to them, otherwise, you can sell it at a better price than what you would get by selling to them. It's really that simple. You can sell your car to 2nd hand dealers or find a buyer yourself and not lose the MARGIN or COMISSION.
Carla02-22-2013
Just to add to that, 2nd hand dealers might earn the margin because in real life it's hard to look for individual 2nd hand car sellers and if it's a creditable dealer it saves you some risk, whereas in UWO there is little benefit to dealing with resellers because you can just sit in seville (rather than travel around, watch out for advertisements about cars) and there is no "risk" of getting a dodgey car that breaks down the next day after your purchase.
5percentoff02-22-2013
@Carla
Are you saying that being a reseller(investor) is easy and we do not deserve the profit that we make?
Why don't you try to wear our shoes then? It is not as easy as it seems. We work just as hard as you doing your dungeons. All same shiit just different smell.
Are you saying that being a reseller(investor) is easy and we do not deserve the profit that we make?
Why don't you try to wear our shoes then? It is not as easy as it seems. We work just as hard as you doing your dungeons. All same shiit just different smell.
Lisa03-08-2013
Is there particular shipwrecks these are from? Or are they just random?
Lancelot03-08-2013
I got my from a low star shipwreck in baltic sea. If you open "shipwrecks" window, you can see the drops there
Jean03-13-2013
Price check?
Ming Mei03-27-2013
Price check on this, Thanks
Port Official04-07-2013
Still no price check.. we want a price check!
Reasonable not greed04-07-2013
The price for this item is when seller and buyer come to an understanding over a reasonable amount of ducates. Proberbly somewhere in the range of 50m - 100m
Lisa08-17-2013
WTB 4 medium storm sails 70m each
PM Jong121
PM Jong121
Lisa08-17-2013
WTB 4 medium storm sails 70m each
PM Jong121
PM Jong121
Jean08-17-2013
wow so generous
Li Yue09-15-2013
wtb 1 pm ingame Tsavo
Natascha09-23-2013
WTb 3 medium storms 100m ea
Emma10-08-2013
WTB Medium Storm Sail
loskaos10-08-2013
Buying 2 of these pm me!
DreadPirateWesley10-08-2013
PM me in game los
Dongwoo10-08-2013
need another HALP
Lisa12-30-2013
WTS this pm ign Riggy
EmoixuIkyzffGomTm01-28-2014
greg.txt;1;3
B-P03-14-2014
wts this pm Black-Pearl. in game or put your offer here with your ign
GunnyHighway03-14-2014
150 mill
B-P03-14-2014
can sell for 150m pm me in game
Althelia04-29-2014
Someone tried to con me for 400m on one of these. Needless to say, our business relations did not last very long.
Akls05-23-2014
pc on this?
minerguy109-14-2014
WTS 1 of these 100m Pm me in game ty
Maxziro01-21-2015
WTB 5 for 400m send tell Maxziro :)
Anne01-23-2017
How much do these go for now?
BIakeC01-23-2017
70-80 mil I reckon.
BonnyLass01-23-2017
I sold one for 100m, but it seems these are commonly dropped by the high end treasure chest for doing Atlantis tech research, so the market is a bit flooded right now. No doubt the market rates will change once Atlantis leaves for good, as people keep warning me it will.
BIakeC01-23-2017
^ You also have to take into account that nobody uses standard ships outside ESF (except for maybe newer players), and even then it's not THAT crucial just to have a tiny boost in WR for a ship you don't use that much.
A.Marshall01-23-2017
atlantis wont gone lol u seen lima did???? it just shift :D
Guilder01-23-2017
I would love for you to be right. But here it is from KOEI's JP site.
Source: gamecity.ne.jp/dol/news/body_3791.htm
At least one JP blogger confirms it.
"From April 19, 2016, Atlantis has disappeared.
I can do episode queries, but it will be impossible to reach imperial contractors, ancient technical research, Atlantis.
However, it seems that it will appear on occasion occasionally at events etc."
Source: tamaharadol.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-332.html
There are others, but I can't take time to look for them right now. As to "reappearing", Atlantis has so far only shown up once again for an entire month in October of last year with new items and gear, then disappeared entirely again. Lima may regress... Caribbean ports may regress... but Atlantis, IE the Acropolis, will VANISH. And when that happens with the dawning of the Age of Revolution, nothing can take us back to it again when that happens. Nothing.
Now, GAMA is a different server in some respects. Maybe we won't lose Atlantis... maybe. But every other major change that JP servers have gotten before us, we've also gotten (Nanban nerfs, dungeon/PVP tweaks).
As I keep warning people, and advise them to warn others... enjoy Atlantis while it lasts. We're not likely to have it indefinitely. Cheers.
Source: gamecity.ne.jp/dol/news/body_3791.htm
At least one JP blogger confirms it.
"From April 19, 2016, Atlantis has disappeared.
I can do episode queries, but it will be impossible to reach imperial contractors, ancient technical research, Atlantis.
However, it seems that it will appear on occasion occasionally at events etc."
Source: tamaharadol.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-332.html
There are others, but I can't take time to look for them right now. As to "reappearing", Atlantis has so far only shown up once again for an entire month in October of last year with new items and gear, then disappeared entirely again. Lima may regress... Caribbean ports may regress... but Atlantis, IE the Acropolis, will VANISH. And when that happens with the dawning of the Age of Revolution, nothing can take us back to it again when that happens. Nothing.
Now, GAMA is a different server in some respects. Maybe we won't lose Atlantis... maybe. But every other major change that JP servers have gotten before us, we've also gotten (Nanban nerfs, dungeon/PVP tweaks).
As I keep warning people, and advise them to warn others... enjoy Atlantis while it lasts. We're not likely to have it indefinitely. Cheers.
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