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世界頻道 [1. General - TW]
- AliBayan
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- I don't think money is a real issue about grinding itself, to be honest. Some estimate the 1-16 rank to be 160M, some 250M... What's that really, next to what people are paying for stuff these days. This book is in practice the only considerable ducat cost of taking it to R20. The biggest actual cost is I think the mind-numbening grind itself. Like, it'd take literally months, if you'd decide to do nothing else in the game. Though if that makes it legitimate to cash 10 or 20 millions for a 2-minute fleet... I don't know. I still believe not.
- Io
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- "Though if that makes it legitimate to cash 10 or 20 millions for a 2-minute fleet... I don't know. I still believe not." Indeed. In circumstances where I've done multiple rounds, I don't mind paying substantially, since the SB needs to hang around. But for when you need a 2 minute fleet? Pure greed.
- AliBayan
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- Yeah... I admit though, that when I'll have a ship I really want, and when I'll care for it to have the max cargo, I'll probably pay that much. And so there's a demand, and so the market says it's all okay and fair. But I still think it isn't.
- Poor shipbuilder
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- Ok dont pay and dont have your ship improved then, you know why SB cost is being so high? SB is not being profitable anymore, and to make it worse people requesting for ships asks for full improved ships as if it wasnt troubleso e or costed NC to do, then you have to go through the pain of explaining the whole SBing process to every single client over and over again. Much more easier and nice to just dungeon and make money instead of having to teach spoiled kids all the time how SBing works to earn out some pocket change, thats why i only SB now for personal use or for close friends/company members.
- Sophia
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- "SB is not being profitable anymore" Oh cry me a river. 10-20m per round of modding, to sit at the SY and watch movies (or whatever you want to do) is not profitable? And to be able to fleece 4 people at a time each for that rate? Tell me one other way that someone can sit and do nothing but accumulate cash like that. If anything, I have even less sympathy for SBers after reading your rant.
- ShitaiA
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- to: sophia go and to SB yourself sophina. and try to earn that freaking "10-20m" if you can! first of all, you will never get always ppl to ask for fleet to do improve all the time. the rate is, maybe like 2 or 3 people the whole day, for a few improves. Then you need to sit at the place for hours. 2nd lots of people always want things cheap! 10m 15m isnt the price you can get. there are alot of cheap people like you, don't know nothing about sb and then said 5m or just go away. 2 nd, the time spend on SB is troublesome, look, that whatever you said 2-min fleet will happened less then 10% of the time. The customer, ALWAYS has no knowledge about sb, no prepared about ship parts. Then you hv to always check his/her ship, tell him what to get. Also might take time to wait for him/her to get ship parts too. 90% of your time is just waiting waiting/teaching teaching! Also you cant just always said you need him to do the improve in seville, or a particulat place. You have to sail to his place! And then what? drop the thing you have to do and sail to a place he wants? and then wait for this and that until he gets ready? 2-mins? mostly it takes like 30 mins for what you claim as 2-mins 3rd, go ahead to rise your SB first before you said price is expensive/sb is greed. You need to spend more then 3 months at the shipyard, 3 months! and then have to check click build and sell for every few mins. OMG great, movie? there is no moive can be fun if you have to stop watching and pause for every few mins, for the 3 months! WHILE the other friends of you are sailing around for fun. AND/OR doing dungeons. Lets put it in this way. 100 days of pure dungeons, how much ducats you can get? EA dungeons+esbt can get you like 30b+... what the hack you can get during the 100 days in SB training? -250m and no freaking game time! 4th, when you are asking to build ships, you will never be able to find the ship parts at company in 1 city, you have to sail around to get the ship parts, and takes like 30 mins to gather evreything, and then spend another 30 mins more to build the ship, in order to earn a 10m or 15m. But then lots of people like you will say price is too high again too. 5th, this book is from mainly from NC treasure box, the drop rate is extremely low. There are people spent like hundreds -1k dollars and didnt even get it. Some lucky ppl do. The drop rate can be considered as the same as those top end NC ships, e.g. Mis, msf, afcv (10b-20b ships at current market rate). So it is not hard to see why this sb +1 worths for a few bils. So dont BS about SB if you dont work for SB. SB isnt work for money, if you want money, let me tell you what: 1) EA dungeons is the best 2) bring your aide ship with you and PO4 to SEA and load spices. It gives you more then SB in long run, and at a fix rate. do I need to say more?
- Sublime
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- SB is the most important job on a game that relies on ships, i bow my head to all sbers that reached R19 or r20 , its an amazing accomplishment , hard work and a lot of boring days spent getting there while other people are "playing" , like myself. ShitaiA u said it all!
- Meng Meng
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- Think ShitaiA idd nailed it all bang one, about the 5th part i tryed plundered those newfoundland fleets for it for fairly long now out of 46 chests it can drop from i have yet to see it drop and i wud love to see it in t-box again soon(cant remember when it was last in there).
- Mei Hua
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- where to get this?
- Shirin
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- (from a dungeon grinder) I think 10-20m for fleet is to cheap. I can earn 20m in a few minutes. Why the hell are other stupid dungeon runners coplaining? 100m is nothing for them. Ask for 50m Shipbuilders. It's the dungeon runners that are greedy! (I'm not a shipbuilder)
- Maria
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- lol wtf? 20m in few minutes?
- Liza
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- ya sad but true, it takes about 20 minutes to run FSD lower, costs about 9 mil to get there. It will sell off for 20-30 mil pretty much every time, even in a crashed market.
- Enver
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- ok good luck ^^
- Laurencio
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- 92 Pearl Shells, 62 Gold, 54 Diamonds, 76 Bronze. Garnet Ring
- Shirin
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- I would rather buy a ETC than waste 5b on this ship. This will not cost more than 500m, its not even a heavy ship and is very very slow.
- Cornelia
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- very expensive trailor with nanban preferred skill. I can see a use for it.
- Hans
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- Has anyone got this book? Is it truly on Leshan Giant Buddha Lower Floor. I have been trying to get this for my Memorial Album and I just can't get it.
- Steward
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- (BlindA)
- lol
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- (BlindA)
- Jean
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- It doesnt work for improvement, it doesnt work with workshop(need to produce at sea for workshop), if doesnt work for alchemy