Chester
11-13-2012

wew 45 base armor ^_^

Sophia
11-13-2012

this ship can go to 10/10 nice

Francine
11-13-2012

225+40

Battousai
11-13-2012

Seems to be "Ambush Vaisseau"

Port Official
01-09-2013

noooo........

ReaD
01-09-2013

uwo.netmarble.com/item/itemDetail.asp?idx=863&sKey1=0&sKey2=0&sKey3=0&sKey4=0

confirm..ambush vaisseau

ironside user will be butthurt? :P

Beech mat too..

Claudia
01-09-2013

Wow and up to 10 imp. MIs 20-25b? not anymore, lol

Dongwoo
01-09-2013

MIS and AFCV prices definately will fall, back to 10b or less, they are no longer the best (goodbye to inflated prices), as for MSF (overrated) 3b perhaps, or less...don't pay more or you're just wasting money and your chance to get a better ship with a better price, Dungeons will be HARDER and making money wont be that easy anymore!

CheungPoTsai
01-09-2013

dura so low on Ambush Vaisseau lol...yah 10/10 but not really that great even with 10 improvments

Lisa
01-09-2013

u guys are noob. this ship dura max 1000. oh yeah 10/10 but in uwo exp battle is needed not ship skill. AFCV,MIS is still the best. oh yeah 255+40? then i will take RHG then better dura more better sailor 289. what a noobs u guys all

Steward
01-09-2013

will this ship be more expensive than afcv?

Rashid
01-09-2013

Vaisseaus were good because they were maneverable and in the hands of an experienced player was the best ship in the game. This ship is preaty much what a pimped out vaisseau that can hang in with the big boy nc ships. I am curious though if this ship has improved gun port

Nicola
01-09-2013

I know you have MIS/AFCV and you are worried that prices will drop, don't worry, it WILL DROP anyway, the Dura of this ship will not be an issue(NOT VERY LOW), it already has 45 Armour, with 10 improvements, the Armour & Dura can be further raised, and when this ship melee your MIS/AFCV, we both know this ship will WIN, 1 vs 1, even overall, this ship is way better and MIS/AFCV. MIS/AFCV has already been/and will continue to be REPLACED, face it!

Junchul
01-09-2013

If exp battle is more important than ship or ship skill then why do you say MIS and AFCV are still the best? youre the noob...

Ming Mei
01-09-2013

Ship is part of what makes a player more better. In my opinion yes MIS and AFCV have more better skill and higher dura than AV but with extra 2 imp that can add for about +8~+10 armour. Just because a ship has high dura it doesnt mean its the best, in the end its all up to the player on how he uses it.

Carla
01-09-2013

For me, I'm never gonna spend billions of ducats for a maritime ship because every what, 2-3 months a new one comes better. Unlike adventure ships, best so far is MLS or FLC . For trade its RBTC or LEFS???. and it has been that way for quite some time now which you can use for a very long time and not spend billions of ducats every quarter of the year. :)

Rashid
01-09-2013

what if AFCV AND MIS become 10/10? u all will be shit out and throw the AV in a deep shit hole? atfer all NM playin yr mind and $

Carla
01-09-2013

All those players who have AFCV and MIS and spent billions of ducats will of course say this ship is not that great but sooner or later AFCV/MIS will be replaced.

Carla is right, do adv and trade, much cheaper, lol.

Beatrice
01-09-2013

Long time ago when MSF was the best battle ship in GAMA, It was sold at 15b highest, now it is back to 5b. Now, what will happen to heavily inflated MIS/AFCV? XD

Chester
01-09-2013

Lol no, AFCV/MIS will stay 20b, and this one already has offers for up to 40b (saw IG, no kidding)... Whatever...

Erda
01-09-2013

Poor Chester, we can see clearly how you struggle to accept that your MIS/AFCV prices are falling, don't you know that prices were inflated??? When prices are inflated, the bubble will burst one day, and when AMBUSH VAISSEAU is OUT, MIS/AFCV bubble WILL automatically BURST!!! Get your shit together...lmao

Liza
01-09-2013

I think nm just crippled the games ship prices with the release of this ship

Liza
01-09-2013

Prices will be back to normal soon. NM already has a plan to fix the prices due to dungeons (no offense to dungeoneers). So anyone selling for 20b, shout in seville all you want.

Naoyasu
01-09-2013

NM already destroyed this game long time ago since they introduce NC ship (Trade-Able) so let it be

Nicola
01-09-2013

I was thinking more like AFCV/MIS 's price dont burst, instead AmVais price go sky high 30b or 40b if its imp is 10/10

Port Official
01-09-2013

is it confirmed that it goes up to 10 improves?

Dongwoo
01-10-2013

@Liza
'what do you mean Prices will be back to normal soon. NM already has a plan to fix the prices due to dungeons'
how can NM 'fix' prices, if i want to sell a ship for 10mil or 10bil, isnt that my choice, and isnt it the player's choice whether or not they accept my proposal.

Mei Hua
01-10-2013

@Dongwoo
there is no fix price in NC ship. just relative price compare to other ships and demand/supply kicks in.
people here giving comments about how much it is are likely to be like cml/enternal/5%off/and lots of lots who done nothing but price fishing in seville all day:
they buy cheap and then sell for high price. Dont got scam buy those people.
Keep the ships for now, dont sell them until you sort out the market rate. Chat with friends and company about what is fair before you sell/or trade it out.

Dongwoo again
01-10-2013

yeah i totally agree, even about the players that fish and haggle players down so they can sell higher. my question is about Liza's comment:

'Prices will be back to normal soon. NM already has a plan to fix the prices due to dungeons'

im not understanding what Liza means by that. what 'prices' will be 'fixed' due to the dungeons? what is this plan NM has? nerf dungeons? i dont see how nerfing dungeons will stop players asking for high prices for ships like these.

Sophia
01-10-2013

I dont like this, whats next 20 imp slots and 500 permits?

Xiao Wei
01-10-2013

@Sophia
No ..next time will be 0/80 improvement with all stat max .. Immortal God-Like Vaisseau ,, lol
15 Boardside , can place 15 carro (16)
9 Extra armouring , can place 9 "hard iron plating"
10 Studing Sail , can place 10 sail
5 Stern Turret + Bow , can place stern 5 + Bow 5
12 Special equipment .Can place 6 corvus + 6 sterncastle

As long alot of people willing to throw their money to Trash - Box , NM will keep selling the NC ship till all non-NC people dont want to play uwo.. It just simply OVER-POWERED by NC
Peace NC Spammer :)

Mei Hua
01-10-2013

I can't see how is this ship any better then AFCV

Crew max @ 190
Armor max @ 66
Dura ....should be around 1130 or 1137 with nation panel base so 1130+250 = 1380 dura.

Might worth more then FFCV but with such a small crew, i rather get FFCV.

Jean
01-10-2013

oh i forgot about the crew is max @ 225 +40..if you use the 2 extra imp for crew.

Melly
01-10-2013

So what skills can this bad boy have? =P

MarcoS
01-10-2013

need to ask a GM for the skills really, but im betting improved gun port, attack prevention net, special sterncastle are available, like the AFCV

Lancelot
01-10-2013

if this thing can have 1380 dura i'd go for it than FFCV, yes MFCV FFCV are rather slow compared to vaiss class you know,

Rashid
01-10-2013

skill set will be the same as regular vaisseau.

this will have 1308 dura with pannel and + 250

Chester
01-17-2013

I cant see how this ship will cost about 25-30b more than an AFCV, if it's cannon battles we are talking about, the AFCV is better since you can't one shot it(at 1308 dura, a full set of demi-god refined cannons will do ya and have change to spare). And if you want to melee, why the heck wont you opt for a galley type, if you think that you can melee someone to death solo, so long as said victim has >180 sailors it's HIGHLY doubtful you can kill him before he breaks melee and then surgeries back. (many ppl who think otherwise obviously lack real maritime experience) and after said victim sees how he is obviously outmatched in melee will assiduously AVOID getting too close to you.

I will grant that its a somewhat nicer all-round ship, but I'd say its worth NO MORE than 20b fully improved and loaded with all the bells and whistles (AFCVs these days fully improved is around 18b)

Lancelot
01-17-2013

I agree wholeheartedly chester

but ppls here is talking about AV vs AFCV battle who will win

Misun
01-17-2013

If we are talking about 2 evenly matched skilled players with similar high-end equipment. I will bet all my money on the AFCV :)

The top end speed and manouverability of top tier fully improved (sanely that is) ships are really not significant in difference. The difference is that both will eventually crit each other, the deciding factor is....who will survive that crit.

I 'think' the 1400+ dura on the AFCV will do 'somewhat' better than the AV's 1300 ;)

Naoyasu
01-17-2013

Top pene god cannon x 5 do 1350-1400 dmg

Both die :)

maybe the 1400 guy have some chance though

Misun
01-17-2013

AV will have lower dura than AFCV but definately higher armour than AFCV, melee might happen, not always, but in case it does, we know AFCV is a goner, so if AV vs AFCV, clear cut AV wins!

Dongwoo
01-17-2013

Now see here you people! I am trying to do some honest profiteering while this thing is still the flavor of the week.

If you wanna talk about logical or fair shit, go somewhere else.

For anyone who wants to buy this thing at a bargain basement price, I have one for sale at 39b

LALALA
01-17-2013

misun, if an AV and AFCV get into melee it's 225 sailor vs 217 sailor......EIGHT freaking sailors difference, can i spell that out for you? 8? 八? や? Huit? Восемь? आठ? aight? 8th? EIGHT?

if both player have r15 AND same equipment its an near EVEN fight

ALSO if the AFCV have special sterncastle, the AV is TOAST (btw AV dont have any useful skill except attack prevent net and command post, AFCV have Special Stern, APN, and IGP)

And unless the AFCV driver is a MORON, he can break melee in 5 rounds tops, assuming that your magic AV is able to kill 20 sailors a pop (YEAH RIGHT) you can only down him 100 sailors, 10 surguries and its all back....THen you get crit...for 1400dmg, *glub* *blug* *glug*

Natascha
01-17-2013

Whhoooaaa LALALA chill man, I'm sure misun meant no harm from his dumbosity. :)

Misun
01-17-2013

You and you dream crits, can you guarantee 100% crits everytime you fire? AV has the highest armour, exactly 8(i know more than 8 actually) higher armour than AFCV, AFCV can have all the skills, but it cant handle AV with God-Cannons, AFCV = Low armour = Fail!!! ofcourse I won't blame LALALA for his IDIOCY

Lancelot
01-17-2013

Did anyone notice that this ship's max dura is even lower than MFCV... 1308 vs 1321.

Lancelot
01-17-2013

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２．　ｇｕａｒａｎｔｅｅ　ｔｏ　ｒｅａｃｈ　１００　ａｒｍｏｒ　（ｔｈｅ　ｍａｘ　ａｒｍｏｒ　ｃａｐ）　＋８ｂ

３．　good crew base plus ２　ｍｏｒｅ　ｉｍｐｒｏｖｅｍｅｎｔｓ，　ｂｅｓｔ　ｕｓｅｄ　ｆｏｒ　ａｄｄｉｎｇ　１６　ｃｒｅｗｓ +8b　

４．　４　ｓｔｕｄｄｉｎｇ　ｓａｉｌｓ，　ｆａｓｔｅｒ　ｏｆｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｂａｔｔｌｅ　＋１ｂ

５．　Ｕｂｅｒ　ｌｏｗ　ｌｅｖｅｌ　ｒｅｑｕｉｒｅｍｅｎｔ　（ｂｅｓｔ　Ａｉｄｅ　ｓｈｉｐ　ｅｖｅｒ？）　+2b

Lancelot
01-17-2013

An contrast of AFCV:
1. 2nd highest max durability +6b

2. 97 armor +4b

3. good base crew + 5b

4. studing sails -1b

5. Igp and ssd skill + 2b

In conclusion, AFCV is approximately 16b imo. While AV should be 13b.

Nevertheless, AV is the latest model, thus the price could go up anywhere from 5 to 10b. Don't be suprised if someone charges 23b for AV.

Lancelot
01-17-2013

An contrast of AFCV:
1. 2nd highest max durability +6b

2. 97 armor +4b

3. good base crew + 5b

4. studing sails -1b

5. Igp and ssd skill + 2b

In conclusion, AFCV is approximately 16b imo. While AV should be 13b.

Nevertheless, AV is the latest model, thus the price could go up anywhere from 5 to 10b. Don't be suprised if someone charges 23b for AV.

Sophia
01-17-2013

Formula for broadside damage of 5 gun ports:
(Piecing / 10 - Armor x 10 / 11) x 5, and minimum to 5 damage

10 armor roughly contributes to 50 damage reduction per broadside.

Critical damage works slightly differently:
(Piecing x 2 / 10 - Armor x 10 / 22) x 5

10 armor roughly contributes to 25 damage reduction per broadside.

the formula gives the ideal max damage.

Your penetration skill rank would put a further percentage on piecing power. R20 penetration gives 20% bonus on piecing.

Evasion reduces the likely hood of reaching the max damage, while accuracy and gunnery does otherwise.

Shot defence reduces a fix amount from the ideal max damage.

Hopefully the information should help you when to choose armor and when to choose dura.

Xiao Wei
01-17-2013

LOL WHO TOLD U THAT LANCELOT? WORST COMPARISM IVE EVER SEEN MY WHOLE LIFE
1. 2nd highest max durability +6b
2. 97 armor +4b
3. good base crew + 5b
4. studing sails -1b
5. Igp and ssd skill + 2b
In conclusion, AFCV is
approximately 16b imo. While AV
should be 13b.

LETS SEE IF ITS THE CASE WHEN NM PUT MORE OP SHIPS IN TB

Hans
01-17-2013

You can't set a fixed price for ships, or any item. This isn't a shop. Sell it for what you think is fine and buy it for what you think is fine.

And if I would have to pick a better ship, I would take a AFCV. It is possible to get it to 100 armour with 1 or 2 great sucess imporvments (or just NC plates) I have seen a 100 armour, 1406 dura, gun port, net and pump skills. And if it comes to meele, if AFCV has special sterncastle skill, the Ambush Vaisseau is dead. If it doesen't, it's just 8 crew diffrence. That won't help AV kill 20 more crew per round.AFCV will also survive for longer in battle with it's 1406 dura while the Ambush Vaisseaus's max dura will drop a bit faster (sea mines, high dmg broadsides, crits).
The bigger dura on AFCV will also help it survive in meele for longer, if enemy will use firebombs.
Of course, ambush vaisseau has 10 imporvments slots, so it can be modded to max dura, armour, (turn and wave if you use d. gaffs and storms) and you could add some crew. So on a good modded AV you are looking at 1300 dura, 100 armour, (probably) decent turning and wave resistance (wave doesen't really matter) AND 240 crew if the person who modded it didn't mess it up badly. It's now 23 crew diffrence betwen AV and AFCV. But special sterncastle skill will make that less horrible. if no special stern skill, it comes to skills and items used.
CLR or any other good galley is better in meele than the Ambush Vaisseau, beacuse of direct hit prevention.
So a fight betwen AV and AFCV would be a close and hard fight, and would probably depend on the 2 persons that are fighting. But i would bet on the AFCV.
So the Ambush Vaisseau is a good killer ship, with armour and crew to survive some stuff. but it will get critted and it will get sunk.

Steward
01-17-2013

bitch plz , a good sailor face to face and win against any type of nc ship by a good FCV

Miyo
01-17-2013

I agree with steward, a good player can kill any moron in an NC ship. But I think what we are discussing is if two EQUALLY skilled and equipped players face off, the advantage goes to the one in the AFCV

Emma
01-17-2013

I hear ppl bitching and moaning that this ship cant be killed because of its easy native 100armor....PUHLEASE! the FCVs can get close to 90armor and the AFCV is able to make 100 armor too if you put NC plates or just BPA skill. even if you get a fugly AFCV with 97 armor 3 armor difference isnt going to float your boat much if you get god cannoned. All the ppl i know with AFCVs have their boats at 100armor in any serious engagement. so I like to see how your AV with 1300dura stays afloat when you get crit hmm?

Nicola
01-17-2013

Uhm ok honestly, while I agree that the armor bit is good, and granted not every crit is a max dmg crit, if your 100 armor cant prevent a 1400dmg crit, what good is it?

Nicola
01-17-2013

I got guns

Woman with boobs
01-17-2013

I got boobs

Loli
01-17-2013

I am a loli

Erda with dick
01-17-2013

I got a dick

Miyo
01-17-2013

^ thats just wrong....

Naoyasu
01-17-2013

I have one and wouldnt sell it under 25b, you guys can say whatever you want, if you want it pay 25b if you dont someone would

Carla
01-22-2013

ppl who got exp in bc esf will know. AFCV stand chance of survive. yeah i do see 1200+ 1300+ 1403+ crit. more armor mean doesnt not effective more. AFCV CAN MAKE 100ARMOR WITH 1406 DURA. AV let said dura 1300 +106 armor..u think crit cant make 1300-1403? to me i have afcv with 1406 and 96 armor. i get crit 1403. but i still stand still in sea. the max crit i see is 1403 when u really near behide of the ship.So ppl u think AV WORTH 25BIL coz of 10/10 and 45 base armor? LOL. No offence to av user. just use brain and think.

Wen zhi
01-22-2013

AFCV is a tanker/setter which needs to have good sustainability, and it is very good at such role.

AV is meant to be a sniper due to its high armor and speed (can use weathered plating instead of rolled). But due to its high crew number, it is not afraid of tanker/setter and sometimes can role-play as a temporary tanker.

A pro MT player should be able to see the distinction between the two ships.

Chester
01-22-2013

WTT this ship and other ships IGN: Nasheru

Nina
01-23-2013

Easily solved: The AFCV has roughly 100 more dura, but much less armour

Jean
01-24-2013

Assuming the formula provided by Sophia is correct then AV's ~10 extra armor gives ~50 dmg reduction per broadside hit and ~25 dmg reduction per critical. For one shot max crit AFCV's 100 extra dura clearly wins BUT when you get combo'd or take repeated shots in the process of repairing it adds up to multiple ~50/~25 dmg reductions in that sense AV wins.

Also let's not forget AFCV usually use PrevNet + Pump + ???? while AV can go PrevNet + Pump + Armor fully defensive skills. If AFCV uses pump or something else as 3rd skill then AV would have a ~20 armor bonus and take ~100/~50 less PER hit so AV wins. If AFCV also takes armor in 3rd slot it will be further slowed down by floods which makes it more susceptible to crits and let's not forget flood does dmg too so again AV wins.

AV is not only faster & better turns, it's playstyle as mentioned by someone else is more of a cannoner and off-tank rather than AFCV main tank/setter, which means AV would be less exposed to surrounded hits and be crit less anyway so again AV wins.

If AFCV is meant to be an in-fighter then ImpGun is not as useful on this ship then it is on MSF anyway.

Theo
01-24-2013

Assuming the formula provided by Sophia is correct then AV's ~10 extra armor gives ~50 dmg reduction per broadside hit and ~25 dmg reduction per critical. For one shot max crit AFCV's 100 extra dura clearly wins BUT when you get combo'd or take repeated shots in the process of repairing it adds up to multiple ~50/~25 dmg reductions in that sense AV wins.

Also let's not forget AFCV usually use PrevNet + Pump + ???? while AV can go PrevNet + Pump + Armor fully defensive skills. If AFCV uses pump or something else as 3rd skill then AV would have a ~20 armor bonus and take ~100/~50 less PER hit so AV wins. If AFCV also takes armor in 3rd slot it will be further slowed down by floods which makes it more susceptible to crits and let's not forget flood does dmg too so again AV wins.

AV is not only faster & better turns, it's playstyle as mentioned by someone else is more of a cannoner and off-tank rather than AFCV main tank/setter, which means AV would be less exposed to surrounded hits and be crit less anyway so again AV wins.

If AFCV is meant to be an in-fighter then ImpGun is not as useful on this ship then it is on MSF anyway.

Cornelia
01-24-2013

So basically AV > AFCV yeah we already know that

Kicker
01-24-2013

Is there really a 100 armor cap? Does that include Bulletproof Armor hidden +10?

Natascha
01-24-2013

Theo, there is something called "Pail", which stops leak.

Enver
01-24-2013

Yes but pails do not stop flood you noob

Liza
01-24-2013

nothing stops major flood, not even drainage pump.

Enver
01-24-2013

drainage pump stops major flood...

Nevertheless, the stuff that cause major flood are: double-shot critical, sea mine, and ram, provided that proper skills were equipped on enemy ship. In most cases, you get leaks rather than floods.

Nicola
01-24-2013

What about melee items like drill of destruction that causes flood? Unless you have aide with obstruction skill and lieutenant trait 100 flood is common... And let's not forget lots of galleys have ship skill with flood-inducing mines/rams... Just look around!

Hans
01-24-2013

"In most cases you get leak" just applies to fighting NPC and getting random leaks. The previous posts were comparing AV versus AFCV and stating that AFCV's extra 100 dura isn't that much if AV takes 50-100 less damage PER NORMAL SHOT depending on whether they both have bulletproof skill. If they both have bulletproof then AFCV does not have pump to stop floods since it engages in melee a lot it's bound to be flooded sooner or later.

Mei Hua
01-24-2013

you can get 95 - 100 armour on both ships without bulletproof, the AV and the AFCV

AFCV has 99 more dura, also a better melee skill. (special stern)
Its a superior ship. Funny how afcv is better with 8 improves vs this with 10.

Igor
01-25-2013

Wow are you people deluded or just don't know basic maths? Yes, both ships can go 95-100 armor but over a year ago I've seen MAV with 90+ armor too does that mean you will trade your AFCV/AV for my MAV? AV's 3 bonus armor isn't much but it does have extra 2 mods which makes it really easy to hit +21 armor whereas for AFCV to get +21 you will need to give up turn/wave or even dura (yes, even if you have unlimited d.gaff/storm supplies). Please don't tell me AFCV can easily reach 95-100 armor because of NC plates because if that's the case you'll be next arguing that they have the same speed becasue AFCV can use NC sails while AV is "cannot".

Miyo
01-25-2013

There are RUMORS about max armor being 100 please can someone explain what that means (and where they verified the information)? Does it mean your numbers won't break 100 or 101 onwards won't count? Does the max 100 take into account Bulletproof +10? Again, how to verify this?

Miyo
01-25-2013

@Igor - Besides giving up lots of turn or wave resist or max dura maybe they are hoping the AFCV to get lots of great success or maybe indeed they are just using NC plates?

Lewis
01-25-2013

People have reliable supplies of +13 armor (that reduce sails significantly) and with alchemy I guess +14 isn't a problem too. So +21 AV will have 66 armor +39 whereas the typical AFCV is rarely higher than +14 armor that leaves it at 56 +39 right?

Port Official
01-25-2013

AFCV only needs +16 armour and rolled to reach 97 armour.... can be done with high turn and 250 dura easily.

People are dumb.

Claudia
01-25-2013

bought one today for 500m

Kicker
01-25-2013

Scammer...

Dongwoo
01-25-2013

100 armor cap tested no point in going over 100 Lewis says av can go 66+39 is 105 armor so you waste improves going over 100 armor.

Dongwoo
01-25-2013

100 armor cap tested no point in going over 100 Lewis says av can go 66+39 is 105 armor so you waste improves going over 100 armor.

Liza
01-25-2013

Tested? Where is the information? I read chinese wiki which is very detailed (eg, has all the formulas of how melee attack/defense are calculated respectively, ship speed, how armor mediates dmg, how many points of skills exp is aquired via various methods) and I do not see anything about armor cap. I cannot read japanese so translated japanese wiki is unreliable but then again they do not reach 100 armor anyway given it's not a free game over there and they don't have cheat-ships like we do.

Beatrice
01-25-2013

There are so many random rumors in this game or from this community lol you can never know what is true what isn't.

Hans
01-25-2013

Dongwoo dumbass, why would it be +39, why would everyone use only rolled plates ?

Think man, instead of rolled plates -14 speed , with such high armour from improvement we can use other plates which still take us to 90+ armour and reduces less speed in battle, like weathered iron or weathered copper

With weathered iron we have 66+33 = 99 armour , and alot less speed reduction

AV has low cargo (i've seen 180 and heard it can be alot lower like 130 ), and improved gunport, and with such speed gained from armouring it'll make a speedy ride in battle, perfect for snipers

Fanta
01-25-2013

90+ armour is ideal for snipers imo, not neccessarily 100 , i'd take weathered copper plates with 93 armour total :D

Claudia
01-25-2013

Please explain how it's easy to get +16 armor with AFCV because my build with x4 Dgaff and x3 Dstorm and using metal work till sails are +120/+110 still gives only +11 armor (+14 turn +10 wave +250 dura) so please explain unless you were referring to easy to get a few great success or you were giving up turn/wave.

Maria
01-25-2013

heavier plates is more accel.

it has nothing to do with sail speed, sail speed dosent pertain much in battle, the tiny gain on sail speed wouldnt be noticied, but the heavier plate acceleration would.

its why bulletproof dosent make you accelerate even tho it adds 10 armour. People are just humping a ship because its new. Fact is 1307 dura isnt enough. MSFS die fast in pvp, its why nobody uses them anymore. This is like a better nordic galleon. Over hyped over valued.

If you're smart you'll get a better ship for it before its too late.

Everyone is talking about sniper this, sniper that. None of you are snipers, gama dosent even have many natural snipers. The Best snipers on Gama are Dog,Boomstick,Gionet,SeaRuiner,Flyingpowder. None of them use AV

Lancelot
01-25-2013

Exactly... People are trying to dismiis AV's potential I'm not arguing that AV is like the absolute best instant-win but 2 more mods is 2 more mods how can anyone talk about it as if 10/10 is non-existant bonus? Would you think that when comparing 8/8 AFCV with 6/6 MFCV? AV is definately way faster and thus more suitable as a sniper, it's now really expensive because it's rare, and it is undeniably one of the top ships.

BTW IS IT TRUE AV CAN HAVE IMPROVE GUNPORT?

Steward
01-25-2013

WTF heavier plates lead to more acceleration where does that come from?

Fanta
01-25-2013

true and confirmed, that's one of the reasons why i said it's a good sniper ship :D that skill makes sniping easier

George
01-25-2013

(To Maria)
Or none of them actually have one... i've seen Ruiner (now changed name to Ravager) trying to get one for days

Fanta
01-25-2013

Maria, there are players trying to be one, and changing their play style to be one , dont be so mean , soon there'll be more snipers :)

Igor
01-25-2013

ravager is trying to get one to resell. hes a frigate class sailor.

Sonia
01-25-2013

Does it use the same parts as MSF for Improve Gunport? So if MIS is defensive admiral ship and MSF is simply outclassed AV must be the best sniper ship!

Kicker
01-25-2013

the best sniper ship is MNG

Lewis
01-26-2013

oh well i guess the proof is in the pudding, today at esf, there were 4-5 AFCVs and about 3-4 AVs, go watch the videos, the AVs were sunk several times, only one AFCV was sunk once and that was to a double front back crit

Naoyasu
01-26-2013

it could be the AV drivers were morons

Lancelot
01-26-2013

then we can classify it as such, 'if you drive an AV, you will likely be a moron or will become one'?

Wen zhi
01-26-2013

yes today i saw av and afcv at ESF. guess what AV sunk easy then afcv. i was shock. Best top ship AFCV for viass player. MIS best top ship for Frigate player. AV? for nw still new nothing can talk abt it
PS: I have AV :)

Lewis
01-26-2013

Wen zhi, i used my MSF and grinded disquised fleet outside new foundland and sinked over 50 fleets and suddenly out of the blue i was critted with 1300 dura by npc, stern/side. Maybe just bad luck!
Since MIS dont have igp its the strongest defensive ship.. I rather keep msf over mis.

Misun
01-26-2013

God... you people... how many times has it been mentioned this ship is not meant to be as tanky as AFCV but it is faster and better suited as sniper...

Jean
03-05-2013

People used to say this is not the best sniper ship (it sure has the smallest cargo = fastest) but in fact it can use Improve Gunport while maintaining 45+21=66 armour compared to AFCV with Improve Gunport being normally 42+12=54 armour that is a 12 armour difference that is significant.

Beatrice
03-08-2013

crew size is actually 225. This is a big reason I like this ship.
Yes, you can put on improved gun port, if I remember right, to improve is same as AFCV.

Hans
03-08-2013

No idea why people still talk about this ship when its proven to be a sad variant of the Vaisseau ships, marketing strategy to sell your ships?

Naoyasu
03-12-2013

WTT FCFV for AV pm me IGN: Xenopause

Io
03-12-2013

u on drug? AV worth 25-30bil. FCFV 10-11BIL. MIS 15BIL. MSuF 9bil.MSF 6-7BIL,AFCV 35BIL,FIS 38BIL

Kicker
03-12-2013

I don't know where you get your inflated numbers from. Yes FCFV is around 10b, MSpecF is around 6-10b depending on mod, but AFCV 35b? I've seen a god mod (extra +1 turn extra +3 armour from GS) selling for 34b then 33b then 32b and still took like a fortnight for it to be sold, since most AFCV have a few fails here and there and some are just noob mods I doubt AFCVs are in the 35b range maybe like 28b. As for FIS 38b you on drug? They were selling for 20b consistently like 2 weeks ago, full improve does not make it 18b more expensive. As for AV everyone knows it's a fail ship by now.

Compare AV with FCFV:
- FCFV has 60 more dura.
- AV has +5 base armour and should get +21 instead of FCFV's +16.
- AV has 23 more crew.
- AV will end up having more turn/wave.
- AV can achieve the above stats while using IGP.
- AV can have like 160 cargo FCFV like 380.

So yes AV is no doubt a better ship overall and a much better sniper but with 60 less dura seriously it's still not as tanky as FCVF. I personally would rider sail a FCVF than a AV in BC and ESF but in open waters pirating or bounty hunting AV would be my choice.

Dongwoo
03-12-2013

Worth less than MSupF if you ask me.

Port Official
03-12-2013

u dumb ass. wanna see my AV? Max Armour,+16 TURN,17 Wave. FIS the only frigate is 1420. for Viass is HSFCV 14++. my FIS 10 wave,12 Armour. i got AV,AFCV,FIS,...u think u i dont know shit?

Xiao Wei
03-12-2013

I think you're the famous god gun noob

Port Official
03-12-2013

What are you bragging about Port Official? Your mod is shit... Anyone can easily get max +turn max +wave max +armour if you have D gaff/storm and 10 improve slots... Should easily get -25% cargo too... Your mod is really shit...

Grammer Nazi
03-12-2013

"u think u i dont know shit?"

I think you don't know English.....

"You think that I don't know shit?"

Terrashand
03-12-2013

2nd Port Official: His mods were decent. No need or right to insult him. Shut up and go do your homework.

1st Port Official: Also, no need to insult people. This is a online video game. If you have to be the best at this game, set your keyboard down, shut off the computer, and go outside and do something. Just standing there looking around is enough.

Value of ships: 10 billion? Wrong. Everything is worth whatever you can get someone to pay for it. If someone will pay 15b then great but you might only get 5b because people might be of the opinion that is what it is worth.

Emma
03-12-2013

Terrashand you sound as if you know it all lol go do your homework use the calculator provided on ivyro and you will see it's easy to get max dura/sails/turn/wave/armour BUT the ship is easy to fail of course unless you use the method recently described by Bliz again it's a method that lots of veterans know a long time anyway.

And plese don't say "a ship worth what you can get people to pay" blah blah blah we all know that you think you smart giving this answer? When we talk about price we talk about the GENERAL price that people are willing to sell/buy like ETC tickets were 4b about a fortnight ago and now 3-3.5b this is the GENERAL price that you see people shouting for we all know it's not the price everyone trades at ok so stop those useless smartass feedback.

Theo
03-12-2013

How about we ALL do or homework and stfu

Lancelot
03-12-2013

Most players have very low opinion of this ship

Terrashand
03-12-2013

Emma: I do know it all. Ask my wife.

As for the price comment yes I do know it is the general price. But, there are quite a few folks on here and certainly in game that are quick to declare someone brain dead or retarded when they are not selling a ship for what they think it is worth. As such I am not trying to be knowledgeable with that comment it's simply I enjoy annoying them and getting reactions such as yours. I find it funny.

Seems like most have a low opinion of almost any ship that isn't a NC ship. As I am not one to join an ESF or PvP for that matter are there non NC ships that can compete with NC ships? Keep in mind just the ships not skill ranks or skill of player.

Also, any feedback I throw in, unless comical, has a specific reason. Possibly not towards you but of course as humans and with this comment setup everyone will assume everything is directed towards them.

Erda
03-12-2013

Why do you speak as if this is not NC ship when it is one.

Chester
03-12-2013

I thought you know it all? Find the answers for yourself then.

Natascha
03-16-2013

I will sell but only for USD

Miyo
03-16-2013

saw someone buying for 30bil for this ship. very hard to get...ppl wouldnt selin it

Jafar
03-16-2013

it's worth 18b or less

PrincessQuio
04-01-2013

hey natascha how much u want for ur av?
let me know.

JongMEI
04-06-2013

lmao, that is breaching terms of service in the game, it perfectly states ships or any items are not allowed to be traded for real cash

Erda
04-07-2013

ppl just offer me 800USD for my best mod...is not allowed in uwo.

Mei Hua
04-07-2013

Liar ^ Who are you ?

Ravager
05-01-2013

WTB this pm me in game

Shirin
05-01-2013

WTB this ship...

Lild
05-01-2013

I am selling this ship but for $$$ only pm in game, rawr

Lena
05-01-2013

Get banned, douchebag.

Sonia
05-01-2013

Im selling this 10/10 farking god mod. Max Dura and Sail +16 turn +17 Wave Max Armor +21. IGN: ghostCRY

Shirin
05-02-2013

Price check?

Kenny42000
05-02-2013

@shirin 10b max for ticket

IgnoreKenny
05-02-2013

ignore anything Kenny42000 says, total retard

Samson
05-02-2013

with 1307 dura this ship is worth no more than 10b, i agree with kenny

Misun
05-02-2013

tickets go from 20 - 30b

Cornelia
05-02-2013

1307 dura but 10/10 and high crew/highly agile in battle, i'd say that Samson and Kenny posts are bullshit

Hans
05-02-2013

1307 dura? Yeah you guys are talking crap this ship aint going 1307 dura

Hernan
05-02-2013

why would anyone pay 20bil for a ticket ? you can have 10mods and max all maybe true , but the dura wil still be 1307 in the end, way to low to be a top end ship

Nicola
05-02-2013

Pay 20b for ticket 3-4b for full upgrade then what? Get one shot by god guns?

Hernan
05-02-2013

Clarify:
- normal guns can one shot this ship with crit
- god guns can almost one shot this ship with broadside

Erda
05-02-2013

Have fun

Kicker
05-02-2013

LOL - tickets go for 10-20B ahahahaha

Hiro
05-02-2013

This ship should go for 5-8B max. I'm not sure what people are smoking?

Beatrice
05-02-2013

20b is wayyy over priced.. If this is 20b ticket than FIS should be 25b+ and HSFCV should be 30b+ because they much better ship and anyyy REAL martimer knows that.

Claudia
05-03-2013

I always wonder how do all those people get from like 100
Million to like 20Billion

Nicola
05-03-2013

AV 20b? go to hell, 7b is the price for ticket

Claudia
05-03-2013

20b? Where the hell you get this number?? The only reason it was so expensive it because only a few on server. Now its dropping heavy out of the new tb and simply ISNT WORTH 20b...FIS, HSFCV,AFCV, MIS are all BETTER than this ship! Any true maritimer knows it! Its max dura same as CLR, you can easily get 1 shot sunk. This shipbis nothing more than a glorified aide ship or rich noob ship. DONT BUY THE HYPE!! This ships ISNT worth anywhere close to 20b. It cant hang with the big ships in PVP.

Miyo
05-03-2013

This ship can get up to 10/10 improvement in the server now.

Dongwoo
05-03-2013

who cares! you need 10 slots to load it up with armor due to the low max dura. THIS IS NOT A MARITIMER SHIP!! This is just a bug hype ship due the how rare it WAS! It is not in same class as AFCV, MIS, FIS and HSFCV. 1307 max dura is a 1 shot sink crit, no matter if it 20/20.. DONT BUY THE HYPE!!

BeEtHovEn
05-03-2013

Trade AV paneled ready for dismantle for FIS 7/7 + MTC pm me BeEtHovEn

Steward
05-03-2013

LMAO.. I wouldn't even think twice in trading my FIS 7/7 for AV nonetheless give you more!! You should be shouting "WTT AV + ? for FIS" Anyone with a full mod FIS knows damn well their ship will crap all over the AV.

Bolt4Nut
05-03-2013

WTT AV ticket for MIS or RHG pm me, Bolt4Nut

Junchul
05-03-2013

Bryan1 can use FIS and sink an AV.. FIS is a maritimer battle ship.. AV is good against NPC ships...

Jean
05-03-2013

shut up! tanking ship?? that argument works for afcv with 1407 dura.. 1307 is not a tanking ship you fool. MSpF is 1307 dura, is that a tank? AV is same ships as MSpF , the 2 more mods makes up for the less wave and turn base.. this is not a 20b ship.. 8-10 tops like MSpF

Bart
05-03-2013

WTT CV ticket for AV ticket.

Emma
05-03-2013

hey bart

Jafar
05-03-2013

LOL @ 10b ship and same as msf....noob.

225 crew attack net and 105 armour with rolleds and +21. get the f out, you just want to lower the price because you are poor as hell, and nobody will buy your shit super frigate anymore. if you can get for 20b gogogo.

Hawka
05-03-2013

10/10 ?

Well ,If you mod this thing with 5 Delphin Storm Sails and 5 Delphin Gaff sails ,Maxed its Durability and Armour ,I can be sure it will be in the same strength of First Class Vaisseau Classes

And once again ,Durability is nothing without Good armour ...You can tank any ship with Highly armoured ships even they have low durability and high evasion skill

Wen zhi
05-03-2013

True, but in order for this ship to survive a one shot crit from 5x1104 red carronades at close range, you will need to buff your ship armour to 180 without normal shot defense. Evasion effect can be easily removed with correct wind speed and at point blank close range. That's the biggest problem with AV, and that's also the biggest reason why it is more suited for as a sniper ship than a tank ship.

The reality is, I don't give a damn with your armour rating, all it takes is a few mines and a heavy ram hit and this ship's dura will be like MAV, ripe enough for any one shot.

Hawka
05-03-2013

AFCV can be hit by the same way .Don't think that AFCV is always the strongest ship in the game ..It's all up to the sailor himself if he can use his vessel and manage his skills and ship abilities to sink his opponent

Igor
05-03-2013

critical damage formula for 100 armor, 20 penetration, R10 DoD, 1584 cannon

((1584/8.875*2 +3-100 *0.2)+200*0.2)*5*0.7 = 1329

critical damage formula for 100 armor, 20 penetration, 1104 carronade

((1104/8.875*2 +3-100 *0.2)*1+200*0.2)*5 = 1358.944

If you cannot understand this still, or fail to acknowledge the difference between 1406 and 1307 from this formula, then there really isn't much more to talk about here.

Hawka
05-03-2013

I understand the formula ,but why does everyone keep talking about critical ...If you people fear the critical ,work harder ,train harder to avoid being butt kicked or face slapped ..that's the point :)

Lancelot
05-03-2013

Fact is you don't. The moment you say this is a tank ship, you must first acknowledge that tank isn't just about broadside damage.

It makes me wonder, do you actually fight close range when you claim this is a tank ship? If you are a sniper, then yeah this ship has what it needs to excel as a sniper, but if you are one of the many people out there that only sail outside trying to sneak a crit in instead of going in and help your fleet mate set people up, then yeah, you're talking from the perspective of a sniper, not even close from the perspective of a tank.

Port Official
05-03-2013

So says Hawka, one of the greatest and hardest to kill maritimers on GAMA!

Claudia
05-03-2013

@Hawka,

You need to know even you are the best player, critical is still inevitable when 2 enemy ships know the basic tactic during the battle: A ship melee->A ship retreat->B ship fire-> u sink

Hawka
05-03-2013

There is nothing called tank ship ,No ship can tank in close range unless you have skills that decreases the damage of cannons ,If you have Aide with "for example" double shot defense skill ,you can highly resist the double-shot damage.

Hawka
05-03-2013

Completing my reply:

I can ask you a question ,why did Netmarble add Evasion skill,why did they add figure heads ,why did they add Aide skills that give u defense from kinds of shots?
the reason is obvious ,Ships cant tank by its own ,But you can make it resist if you used your skills wisely

Hawka
05-03-2013

Stop calling me Hardest or best or such useless words ..I talk logically !

Maria
05-03-2013

In your desperate reply to salvage yourself, you contradicted your claim.

"10/10 ?

Well ,If you mod this thing with 5 Delphin Storm Sails and 5 Delphin Gaff sails ,Maxed its Durability and Armour ,I can be sure it will be in the same strength of First Class Vaisseau Classes

And once again ,Durability is nothing without Good armour ...You can tank any ship with Highly armoured ships even they have low durability and high evasion skill"

I didn't write this, you did.

Hawka
05-03-2013

If you can't believe me ,Send me a tell in the game

I'm waiting you

Anne.Bonny
05-03-2013

I guess I don't have to send you a tell in game now?

Anne.Bonny
05-03-2013

By the way, Port Official and Claudia's replies ain't from me. This ship has its strengths in being a sniper, no doubt about that. But it's not going to survive long enough in close combat due to that durability. That is why major infighters naturally prefer FCV classes or the better versions of Ironsides than Armoured or normal Vaisseau class versions.

Hawka
05-03-2013

U can last longer with High armour and Defensive skills and high ranked repair skill ,even the FCV ,Vaisseau or Ironsides are at there minimum durability

Anne.Bonny
05-03-2013

You still don't get me. All it takes is a single crit from 5x1104 red carronades, 3 offense to take you out of the fight if you don't have normal shot defense, even with 100 armour. That's the reason I quoted Bliz's formula. At 1307, you don't even have a second chance to repair your ship if you are down to this situation. When people use Carronades, they don't plan to broadside you to bring your durability down, they are there to send you off the fight with one crit, or two if you manage to survive.

The simple question is this: Given limited mods, will you go for max armour on a Vaisseau, or durability first? I guess that explains a lot of things isn't it.

Igor
05-03-2013

when you got crit, your armour is useless. thats the point of pointing out that crit. unless you are really a retard who cant understand what we are trying to tell you

Li Yue
05-03-2013

Only 1307dura and no DHP skill = 1 shot crit no matter how much armor or high evasion

Lena
05-03-2013

just a way for nm to scam peoples, 10 mods, how many ssips u need to spent on this?^^

Battousai
05-03-2013

In short, this ship is awesome, but its easier to sink with cannons than other higher durability ships like AFCV, HSFCV, MLA, FIS, etc, since armor effectivity is almost null against criticals.

Liza
05-03-2013

in shorter,pay ur nc to become godlike

Francine
05-04-2013

I agree with Batto. This ship is awesome and can mod up real nice but... Its not on same tier as FIS, HSFCV, AFCV, MIS, MLA... It is simply not worth the "20b" price tag. It is more comparable to MSpF...

lawl
05-04-2013

man... 2v1 catch release, you people are noobs if you do not know how to avoid taking an ass shot coming out of meele. Please go back to grinding the basics and learn.................................

George
05-04-2013

Hmm lawl, where have I seen your name before? O yea NOWHERE!! Get your skills up before you comment you noob!!

Li Yue
05-04-2013

hmmmm.. another failure in obtaining this ship.. now spent $100, i guess i need $10000 just to get 1 :(

Sakura
05-04-2013

WTB AV ticket 5b Please PM ME!!!

Sakura
05-04-2013

WTB AV ticket 5b Please PM ME!!!

Junchul
05-04-2013

WTS AV ticket 50b Please PM ME!!!

Sakura
05-04-2013

WTB AV ticket 5b Please PM ME!!!

Misun
05-04-2013

WTS AV ticket 50b Please PM ME!!!

Lena
05-05-2013

WTB AV ticket 5b Please PM ME!!!

Claudia
05-05-2013

some stupid players sell hsfcv , fis , afcv for this ship

Bliz
05-05-2013

another junk ship lol

Carla
05-05-2013

youre so funny Bliz, laughing at you own bitterness

Sakura
05-05-2013

guys seriously... the dura on this ship really is the killer. It just can't stand up to a well timed crit. if you can't get over 1360 dura you may as well be in a non-nc vaisseau.


I'm not knocking on the ship, I'm just stating fact.

BUT, with god cannons making it possible to one-shot even the highest dura/armored ships in game, all that changes doesn't it?

Hawka
05-05-2013

Go home and be a family man ,Bliz ..son of a bitch !

Bliz
05-06-2013

believe it or not, this ship is worse than FCV lol...

CheungPoTsai
05-06-2013

WTT Festive IronSide 7/7 Porto Official Nice Modded for AV 10/10 pm me

Black-Pearl.
05-06-2013

hi anyone know what parts need for improved gunport on this ship?

Chester
05-06-2013

same as afcv

Black-Pearl.
05-06-2013

what parts is that..

Ana216
05-07-2013

join pac join pac join pac join pac join pac join pac join pac join pac

Laurencio
05-07-2013

PAC...what company is that, the shitty one or the crappy one?

Kicker
05-07-2013

omg still more PAC hating going on, i hope that envy, hatred and jealousy eats away at your soul til you no longer jave the will to play the game.

Dongwoo
05-07-2013

Whats up with all the PAC hate they seem better than any company any of you have ever been denied entry to

CPC
05-07-2013

The People of PAC are Great i have alot of love for them however the leaders of PAC have made some very "questionable" decisions that i dont agree with or condone

Bowser
05-07-2013

NOOBS BOW B4 PAC BOW B4 PAC
WE ARE SO GOOD WE LET SCAMMERS LIKE WOLF FAG AND CHEUNGPOTSAI(LIL CUTIE) IN TO COMP BECAUSE WE SO GOOD

Claudia
05-08-2013

PAC Members are gay, just a bunch of pussies with big NC ships. What a PACk of noobs!

Mei Hua
05-08-2013

So manly to put someone else's name so they don't know who talking crap y not put ur real toons name then talk shit?

Wen zhi
05-08-2013

@Mei Hua PAC Members are gay, just a bunch of pussies with big NC ships. What a PACk of noobs! IGN JohnDoe

Li Yue
05-08-2013

why don't you people put your real name so PAC can see who talking bad about them? scared?

Shirin
05-08-2013

CheungPoTsai, TheSeaReaper, LilCutie find a bridge and jump you shit bag.. Stop spamming/scamming Seville the same crap over and over with different accounts.. WE know its you!! Get a life you sorry ass loser!!!! Your whole crew is a bunch of noobs. Your 3 alts listed, Wolf_Fag, SweetCandy, YouKnowWho Bartolomeo, MsCheungPoTsai.. You guys are the biggest group of dirt bags on the server.. Nobody likes you! You guys go from company to company scamming along the way.. You guys have to realize your losers irl too.. I mean its just so obvious......

CheungPoTsai
05-08-2013

hmmm yall dont keep up with PAC news WOLF_FANG not in PAC anymore and stop puting my name in ur comments grow up stop acting like little kids its a game

Liza
05-08-2013

Your family of scammers is still in the game thats a big problem

Dongwoo
05-08-2013

so what has CheungPoTsai supposedly scammed?

Rideon loves all
05-08-2013

um, WTH ?!? why so many, or just a few over & over, have such issue with PAC? I don't get the hatred for decent ships? jealousy? Scammed? WHAT IS SCAM? if you make a trade you must hit "confirm" ya? Got a problem with resellers? me too, but it aint a scam LOL. I am kinda new to PAC, there are bad folks in this game, maybe there are some in company, I sure haven't seen it. It just makes me laugh to see so much attention. Did yall get sunk by PAC pirates too many times or something? lol

Hernan
05-08-2013

fail pac support fail

Dongwoo
05-08-2013

getting really boring this PAC envy, jealousy and hatred, you hate em so much, PM their members, leave it off this site cos most of us are here to play and enjoy this site. all you 'PAC are scum' blah blah players are sad as hell. when youre typing out these 'hate' messages take a look at yourself and try realise what youre doing, if you cant see youre being pathetic, then youre a lost cause and im glad i have nothing to do with you and glad im not like that. in fact i strive to be the opposite to you pathetic haters driven by envy and jealousy.

CheungPoTsai
05-08-2013

lol i love when dumb people like to try and be me but if u pyt y'all instead of yall its not me i dont put the ' sorry loser grow up

Sylvia
05-08-2013

hey UWODB: can we please get new item on your site called PAC, so that MAEYBE we can get back to talking about things like Ambush Vaisseau on the Ambush Vaisseau page?
or maybe netmarble can put a port or whatever in came called PAC.
OK ? thank you

stupid me
05-08-2013

Well PAC has a new toy to take out the pent up anger they have,most of the time have to unleash it among themselves to see who's got the biggest wiener,even tho some have female names characters.

Li Yue
05-08-2013

Holy crap I never thought I would see posts that made me wish Nelle would start talking himself up in the 3rd person again. Good job guys.

Armie
05-08-2013

What have all those PAC hatred got anything to do with Ambush Vaisseau?!

TRUTH
05-08-2013

How does Cheung,WolfFang Scam?
1.They put the boat for sale in trade window then before u hit accept they switch with a smiliar lame boat with same EXACT NAME
2.They encourage players to buy their stuff w/o checks so that they pay in parts then on last part they dont give item
3.They ask to borrow ships and never return it
4.They get all their alts wolf, chueng, Bart to all shout prices for the same boat at the exact same time faking a price war ex. wolf sell CSTS for 9 bil, chueng sells for 10, Bart Sells for 12(The ship is only worth 4bil) player buys for the fake "lowest" price >.<

TRUTH
05-08-2013

Why Do People Resent PAC?
1. They seek out and try to bribe all the highest level players with Rare NC Ships Sergent002, Mahir are just a few of people that have sold their soul for NC ship
2. They go around acting like they are better than evryone saying very cocky arrogant things
3. They SPAM NC for ships and forge gear and act as if its their skill that makes them strong
4. They will NEVER challenge a powerful player without NC backing them up u will never see them fight AND WIN against players Lodian in a non nc ship or fight AND WIN against Crzy or Terry without their forge NC gear
5. They sit in a corner of Seville and act like they actually OWN the land and have even started arguments over it
6. If you beat them at anything They will troll you and resent to the point a player will quit the game if you dont believe ask in world chat who they did it to
7. Let Scammers like WOLF and cheung in company knowing their reputation
8. PRETEND like they are the victims and evryone hates them for no reason BULLSHIT!
-TRUTH-

gunnyhighway
05-08-2013

^ wow, though that when you set for trade they couldn't switch, good to know, ill make sure I buy ships from someone who doesn't screw me.
what are their alts so I watch out for

Francine
05-08-2013

lame conflicts, lame game just quit

Theo
05-08-2013

This guy is like, he knows everything. Wow!!!
To be honest, just quit if you keep whinning here.

Lewis
05-08-2013

Parameter in real life and in net game are dirctly inversed

THE STRONGEST PLAYER IN THE GAMES,
IN REALITY ARE THOSE USELESS PEOPLE WITH THE MOST TIME ON THEIR HANDS,
THAT'S VERY COMMON.
WHEN A SUPER STRONG , LEGENDARY , GOD LIKE PLAYER APPEARS
THAT ALSO WHEN THE SUPER USELESS , LEGENDARY IDIOT , GOD LIKE LAZY PEOPLE APPEARS.

Just 4 Knowledge

Sylvia
05-08-2013

I'm finding the teenage debate very entertaining please keep up the good work ! ;)

Hernan
05-08-2013

Actually Lewis it usually goes around hand in hand. Loosers in rl are loosers in a game, they tend to commit the same mistakes over and over again.

Hernan
05-08-2013

If anything not having any free time in rl is a direct sign of a deep degree of stupidity...the kind of slave mentality working class sort of stupidity.

Spy.
05-08-2013

Tyty!
The program has now ended. Till next time!
PAC vs. SL Drama brought to you by Nestle.

Spy.
05-08-2013

PAC haters*

Nina
05-08-2013

i hate the game, how can i invest my.time on such things and without the game itself to be improving. just my few cents

Jafar
05-09-2013

Serg, when you got into PAC you suddenly got a FIS. Which you have been wanting ever since you came back to the game. You tried getting one from NOTC, didn't work. You got one from PAC though, just the same as Mahir did. You sold your self to PAC for a NC ship, which quite frankly is not all that good. I'd prefer a MLA for exactly the same sort of price, or because your high enough level's a ALA. Since joining PAC, you have turned from being an obnoxious little immature child that ruined the remaking of PL, to a obnoxious little immature asshole. There is no denying that. As for WOLF_FANG, he's a boy in a man's body. He didn't get good through hardwork or skills. He got "good" through maxing out his paypal, game card and the other payment option EACH month. Which give's him an enormous amount of NC to win ships with, he also scam's people. He tried telling somebody in my company that his CSTS was only worth a CLR + 1B. When that person came to me and asked me if it was a good deal, I told him to tell wolf to go away. So he dealt with a more reliable person. Hell going into PAC ruin player's. And I quote from a anomous player who was in PAC "PAC look all fine and dandy from the outside, but inside there ideal's are screwed. It's all about who has the biggest and best ships." Grow up, realise that this is just a game and deserves to be enjoyed, not take your whole life away. Much love.

anonymous

Port Official
05-09-2013

This game is getting real money based, if you don't spend money in this game you will get no power.

Emma
05-09-2013

HAHAHAHA LILD come on to say good job to his comp mate, BIG SUPRISE. NOOB,we hate PAC because they act is if they are something strong but they are not, they have yet to achieve anything good. look at nellemus most famous pirate ever. what have pac done nothing, apart from spam stupid message in seville like "BOW B4 PAC" spend all day duelling each other to show their own awesomness
then have idiot like cheung in comp
one day you might be good but it is not these days. go play farmville

Igor
05-09-2013

PAC hasnt accomplished anything? They are the best maritime company in server, onenof the richest, and monthly top 2 companies in seville... Nellemus accomished nothing, runs from all maritimers....

Port Official
05-09-2013

This game is getting real money based, if you don't spend money in this game you will get no power.

CheungPoTsai
05-09-2013

If ur ganna talk bad about me Atleast put ur fame name so I can show u how much of idiot I am ok? Thanks

Shirin
05-09-2013

Enough with the jealousy.. PAC is monthly the top company in seville. They are one of the top maritime companies. Theyre total accumulation of ducats is 1 of the richest conpanies. Soo rich that Princess Ana is top investor in Seville @ 10b.. Even if these members recieved any compensation for joining PAC how is that bad? Is it bad a company cares that much about their members to give them free shit so they can inprove themselves?! Is it bad that all members have nice battleships and backup is a company message away? PAC has accomplished nothing? If thats nothing, what has your company done for you? Just like in real life, thr rich get richer and poor people get more jealous. Instead of spamming hate messages on invyro, spend the time grinding your battle skills or training techs. Bye haters!!

Beatrice
05-09-2013

When did pac beat house of oranje? PAC will never be Number 1 maritime. rejects from other comps all in one place just coiners who celebrate 5vs1 like lild did with viking. no other coy celebrates ganking as if it make them strong. not jealousy just pointing out obvious

Nina
05-09-2013

ya apple,dog sophian all strong fighter who has pac have to match this???

Shirin
05-09-2013

And i cant forget their alias: Wolf_Fang, SweetCandy, ChengPoTsai, TheSeaReaper, LittleCutie, MrsChengPoTsai, YouKnowWho, Bartolmeo,... All part of the same scamming crew. DO NOT do business with them; do not be friends with them; do not recruit them to your company; kick them out if theyre in already!! These players are cancers to the game and gama would be better without them.

Enver
05-09-2013

Right, just leeches. Go from company to company now they are in heaven surrounded by coiners and noobs like davidjonez who they strong. Help them in their scamming ways. Cancer of the server. Now supported by PAC

Xiao Wei
05-09-2013

keep it coming!

Shirin
05-09-2013

cry more you and your scumbag group can GTFO this game and go leech elsewhere

pac is hard to make look good so dont worry their horrid reputation is not your fault honey

CheungPoTsai
05-09-2013

Hmmmm quit because ur a cry baby and must be scared of me cuz u won't put ur real name or stay and laugh at everyone who talks bad about me...hmmm hard choice think ill stay :)

~Bartolomeo~
05-09-2013

funny thing is most complain about WOLF_FANG and CheungPoTsai but the thing is no one can kill them....you talk crap on tha database and hide your gamer name for no reason these 2 charectors don't make PAC look bad they terify those who are scared of PAC and one other thing....most people say there are scammer's you can't scam people who are willing to do the trade there are 3 steps to not get "scammed" don't confirm the dam trade....don't make a offer....and make smart discition's...no one can scam most people just make bad choices deal with it have a great day :)

Ambush Vaisseau
05-09-2013

Wow. It was quiet earlier today after cannon forging tools talked abt me, but suddenly appeared all these posts.

Guess the kids have woken up.

Where's my popcorn.

Vindictam
05-09-2013

I'll put my real name, I have no problem with Cheung. He backed my up on the price of my CSTS, that WOLF tried offering me 1b+ a clr for leading me to the idea that he is a useless scum bag. I dislike him strongly for trying to scam me, dislike him for his big head thinking he's the best in the server.. Yet him and PAC ran when tonyj and TvRxHitman port camped him, he was on his own to start with. But if he's such a good maritimer, why run kiddo? You cant fight fair fights, you can only fight if its unfair. Don't bother trying to measure your dick against me by saying "come fight me then u faggot" because i've stopped maritime now, it's uselss imo. WOLF is annoying for sure, but i've fixed that by blocking him. PAC though get on my nerves. For example I watched RaygOner and Lynxx- and someone else get ganked 3on1 vs someone in a ATS. She or He used mines, but he/she was outnumbered, making it a fair fight. Ray blamed loosing on the mines, but if they're the top maritime company.. Then THREE vs ONE would of been able to survive, surely? I do not care for who is the richest, best or biggest. I care for my company and the progress we make.

Please do grow up..

Vindi.

Claudia
05-09-2013

Pussies, pussies everywhere.

Giorgio_Tsoukalos
05-09-2013

Robert's got a quick hand.
He'll look around the room,
he wont tell you his plan.
He's got a rolled cigarette
hanging out his mouth.
He's a cowboy kid.

Yeah! He found a six-shooter gun
in his dad's closet, with the box of fun things.
I don't even know what,
but he's coming for you. Yeah, He's coming for you!

All the other kids with the pumped up kicks,
You better run, better run, outrun my gun.
All the other kids with the pumped up kicks,
You better run, better run, faster than my bullet.

All the other kids with the pumped up kicks,
You better run, better run, outrun my gun.
All the other kids with the pumped up kicks,
You better run, better run, faster than my bullet.

Lisa
05-09-2013

pac strong maritime? ROFLMAO bunch of rejects from other comps. they cant beat other game powers at sea they are nothing

~Bartolomeo~
05-09-2013

i know im not the best im getting better....
atleast im not scared to put my name
unlike you hideing....i never scammed like i said before you can't scam
not my faught people take the offer's then don't like it and ask to trade back you say no they get pissed and call you scammer
i might be weak and not good...but grow up and PM me when you get that balls to fight me ^^
~BArtolomeo~ is how you spell it pussy

TRUTH
05-09-2013

Want more Dirt on PAC?
1. The REAL reason they recruitd Wolf, Chueng well known scammers was for the sole purpose of scamming money and ships from players so that Ana216 and Bowser aka yachiru could use them to bribe more high level players to join PAC
2. PAC has gone to other strong companies SL CDR BH to name a few and tried to bribe their members with NC ships to join PAC if ur top player has left ur company check PAC roster and then check if they got a new uber ship
3. Lil D is a spineless man he was betrayed ,humililiated and farmed by his own company loser leader boswer so Lil D quit then cried to everyone about it then what does lil D do? JOIN BACK TO PAC! prolly for a NC ship bribe shame on you grow a pair be a man stand up to bowser
4. Sergent002 ur next in my truth report...

Yeah I know all ur dirty little secrets I have a moles in ur company have fun finding out who they are
~TRUTH~

truth
05-09-2013

XiaoCao is goncalo, josey wales is sir issac, yachuri is bowser, zhao is king james, ''Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive''

RHSSpartan was booted because they blamed their defeat by SL on him as he wanted to use mines at a mock battle.

from the little truth,

CheungPoTsai
05-09-2013

Umm ur wrong Zhao isn't king u might wanna stop thinking u know things

Boomstick
05-09-2013

lol, is this really necessary? Everyone knows what PAC is and their "credibility" in the maritime community :). So just fight them, laugh at them, and ignore them and have a good time.

Meng Meng
05-09-2013

Zhao yun I think was the player was/is sir issac, he changed his name to josey wales now.

KingJames is currently as the last known name I know he had was Shap.ng.tsai or something

Vindictam
05-09-2013

CheungPoTsai, Shap.Ng.Tsai, Zhao Yhao and bowser's new name are all name's of famous pirate's in the past. Google there name's it'll come up with the REAL pirate's. There so good they can't even think of a original name? Idiots.

Vindi.

Laurencio
05-09-2013

"May god have mercy on your soul" what the hell man? get your stupid religion out of this. we are flaming the failness of pac and their lies

Port Official
05-09-2013

No life alert
No life alert
Seriously, just stop. Its pathetic, we don't care about ur war with PAC...
Just stop flooding the main page!

Moderator.
Ban him/her!

Spy.
05-09-2013

Stop fighting already! Its been 3 days and its been flooded! WTF!
Seriously, truth --idk who you are-- but you need to calm down. And no im not siding with PAC, some might be true or all but :( just please stop.
Why can't you just fight them ingame instead of spreading rumors --or truth-- but the fact is that we hate you. We don't like it how you keep provoking PAC to spam the page. And yes PAC stop spamming the page as well.

TRUTH if you want people to accept what ur saying, I adviced you to stop pissing people of with ur spamming skills..:

Just stop!

DonPiano
05-09-2013

#YOLO

Carla
05-09-2013

Guys, guys. Back on topic to ship please. Enough of this rubbish trash talks.

RHSSpartan
05-09-2013

Truth is entertaining, please do go on

Spy.
05-09-2013

Spartan, we know u hae grudges against PAC but that doesn't mean you can ecourage this "fight".

Armie
05-09-2013

Spart, for one second i thought Truth was you. Apparently he knew lots of things, some were partially true but was without background, others just made up.

Lil D, truth said u were given a ship. Now I am jealous. What ship?! apart from your old FIS, i never saw u in any other fancy ships. Mind let me have some fun with that "bribing" ship?

RHSSpartan
05-09-2013

I have no grudge, I was thrown out like trash not like I was a member of their family. I moved on. But this is entertaining me and I like to be entertained ^.^

RHSSpartan
05-09-2013

Have I ever been one to hide on a different name and talk about people? If someone pisses me off I talk back, its why I have been kicked out of more then one company

!Lild!
05-09-2013

=) glad to see im famous yay... Truth please get a life ^_^ also to be attacked in hostile waters once in awhile would be nice would make the game less boring , if you look at my cap log u can see i usually have well over 20m when on hand also 5x maestro sails and 2 iles I welcome you to bring it also how can you farm a white name you retard.... ..nuff said

I was never given any ship but an MKW from wolf_fang as he was going to get rid of it, that ship i no longer have armie...

I will no longer entertain you fail troll, come find me in the game its not hard..

Sorry to those who use the DB what it's for and that this loser is causing so much flood

Armie
05-09-2013

Serg, it was fun mocking with you while u were still in PAC. Not sure about Cheung (i have no problems with him), but wolf is no long in PAC. People talk high about you. You are always welcome in PAC.

Sophia
05-09-2013

...the soap opera keeps going..I am a huge fan already keep it coming boys, what's next on the menu ? Drag Queens ? :)

i am REAL WOLF_FANG
05-09-2013

LMAO i love reading all these no life kids/ladies write about others bc they really have no live of there own........im sorry but im really 19 years old and work in Off shore rigging yard......i work 13-14 hours a day and really play UWO if i have time but mostly on for weekends and since im such GREAT scammer i wonder why i only have AFCV......oh and im sorry i have LOTS of extra money i can max my NC for each month and still have money......so thanks again i like being talked about just great seeing i have so many kids/ladies who worrie about me LMAO any ways GL and Good game to the peeps who live on UWO hahaha *shout out to PAC yall are doing great let these noobs say what they want but as long as yall know half of these noobs can talk shi.t and not back it up just laugh at them lol we have haters o'well just means we have ppl who want to be us but cant hahaha again KEEP UP GREAT WORK PAC* :)

Armie
05-09-2013

The ivyro really helped me relaxing from my tense work when i read it from time to time. So many people post those entertaining statements, which made me lol from time to time!

Keep up the good work.

DonPiano
05-09-2013

Why my comment was deleted? Because it was true? Who fears the true? the admins? This game is slowly dying.

Barack Obama
05-09-2013

I was born in Kenya and Michelle rapes me every night.

Sonia
05-09-2013

WOLF_FANG and CheungPoTsai are both well known for being scammers. The fact that they were allowed in PAC further diminishes PAC's reputation.

Erda
05-09-2013

You are realy smart.

iPod.
05-09-2013

Hahaha, PAC this has been waiting to happen for a long time. Goodluck stopping TRUTH. He isn't one to give up easy. Talk later babys;.

Pod.

Geote
05-09-2013

@Sonia : i still dont understand why the allowed criminal in that company?

Misun
05-09-2013

sorry to spoil the fun but i just wanna lookout after the newer players who visit this site for info abt game.

the relevant info on this site is very useful. howeverr, you can just ignore all the other non related stuff like the "arguments" here. ALL these comments, namecalling and defamation acts and sometimes price checks have 0 credibility.

if you want to know the real issuea and facts, go on to the World Chat in game where there is more credibility.

ALL the comments here are purely for entertainmemt purposes for bored people to have a laugh. just keep that in mind qnd dont be afraid to play your own game in uwo with the fear that haters will defame or impersonate you on ivryo. just do your thing in game and hav fun ok. ^^

CheungPoTsai
05-09-2013

ok lets make a deal...if anyone can tell me what i scammed ill quit UWO come on tell me? anyone?

Erda
05-10-2013

YOU should quit. yr all family and yr alt scam ppl alot some of my company got scam AOG ....wth dude. low scammer ive ever see

CheungPoTsai
05-10-2013

U didn't tell me what I scammed

Lena
05-10-2013

Cheng as well known as you are as a scammer, most people know you as a whiny little bratty kid also. Quit for this reason....

Miyo
05-10-2013

PAC did this, SL did that, Lild said this, Wolf fang scammed, CheungPoTsai a whinny kid, Jeez have you heard yourselves?? are all as bad as each other, if you have a issue with someone PM them in game and sort it 3 days people have been posting on here and its getting REALLY ANNOYING. take it in game.

Jazzmin
05-10-2013

UKnowWho isn't Cheungs alt. XD, And Miyo, I agree 90%, I want a AV, just so I can melee with it as well as cannon with it. :)
ALso those 10 mods wouldn't go amis on a Armored Vaisseau.

Steward
05-10-2013

I agree with Miyo. It's getting very irritating and annoying. misun is right in that there is no credibility in all these posts. I wouldnt be surprised if the fights by these various people are actually written by the same person. Some people just enjoy being a nuisance. Please go argue in game, that is if you actually play it to begin with.

CheungPoTsai
05-10-2013

ok i need to tell this to you guys.. WOLF_FANG tell me that he scammed an AFCV to a player...try to imagine he got lots of NC ships without doing nanban or dungeon to earn money and he is just stayying at seville waiting for a low lvl player to sell stuff's and then BOOM! he just scammed that player...i WARNED you all do not trust WOLF_FANG he is a great SCAMMER!

CheungPoTsai
05-10-2013

Lol yall are pathetic grow up dude I'm 16 and more mature then all of u

CheungPoTsai
05-10-2013

Take my name out of there cuz I don't scam don't brag about wins and don't hide in port

CheungPoTsai
05-10-2013

Oh and if wanted to fool someone I wouldn't change name because I know my name changes on block list I'd just start over I change my name because I get bored of it doesn't everyone? Lol

Armie
05-10-2013

I haven't seen PoTsai scamming. He's probably just a bit greedy. In January this year, he tried to convince me on my alt that MSF + a few billions was somehow equal to AFCV ticket when I just got my luck draw with the first click. But that was not drama. It's just the way business works, buy low sell high.

Soop
05-10-2013

Armie, Please do not lie. CheungPoTsai has scammed Sergent002's MLS. CDR's Ship? And So many more. Po and WOLF combined scammed Edward-Newgate's FFCV. If PAC recruits such butthurt members. PAC is a butthurt.

Sergent002
05-10-2013

Stop mentioning me >.<

Armie
05-10-2013

Soop, I didn't lie. I have not seen PoTsai scamming. If you have evidenced such crime, please make sure you let everyone know with greater details on forum, hopefully including their exact scam process.

Just by saying someone scamming does not help...

Soop
05-10-2013

Armie, Stop protecting your buthurt member. He knows this, if you don't belive me ask Sergent002.

Fanta
05-10-2013

Wow look at all the mess o.O it's not even related to AmbVais....

Soop
05-10-2013

Armie, Stop protecting your buthurt member. He knows this, if you don't belive me ask Sergent002.

Armie
05-10-2013

Soop, you misunderstood. I am not trying to protect PoTsai. I am curious about the scam detail of what they have done.

Or... every Ambush Vaisseau user is interested in knowing the scam details so that they could judge PoTsai's characteristics.
(Now there is something to do with AV :))

I do not make my judgement until I see the facts. Right now I am thinking PoTsai is greedy because of my experience. And I am open to learn more on what happened.

If Sergent002 really got scammed, I felt very sorry for him. He's one of the coolest people I met (Pretigest kept telling me how cool he is too) :D. I wish he come back PAC.

Sergent002
05-10-2013

Please stop mentioning my name. I am tired of the messages I got. Thanks

Laurencio
05-10-2013

Sergent002 likes Chinese food
Sergent002 loves cookies
Sergent002 hates Green Bay Packers

Beatrice
05-10-2013

yes PoTsai scam Sergent002 MLS last year...i know serg my fren... serg ask him to sale for him...but he make a drama said i "was trading with this guy suddenly it has bug and the ship when to his inventory...i was like LOL this guy PoTsai should be a hollywood actor. YOU all can ask Sergent002 himself.

Sergent002
05-10-2013

Seriously stop. and Laurencio what is Green bay packers?

Laurencio
05-10-2013

lol, and apparently American football ;)

Sergent002
05-10-2013

Seriously stop. and Laurencio what is Green bay packers?

Sergent002
05-10-2013

Seriously stop. and Laurencio what is Green bay packers?

Liza
05-10-2013

I love to shake my boobs

Nina
05-10-2013

I love to shake your boobs also ;)

Liza
05-10-2013

Okay shake it hard.

Francine
05-10-2013

All you people who cry about being scammed are little bitches.. Transactions happen in three steps, so you must have clicked accept..

if you mess up stop trying to blame others and accept some responsibility for your actions.. Grow up and stop being bitches..

now teach me something about the damn Ambush Vasseau you little bed wetting bitches..

BBB rules bitches..

Soop
05-10-2013

Francine, You obviously are stupid. CheungPoTsai and WOLF_FANG Trick them.

Carla
05-10-2013

I see many stupid children trying to convince others that theirs dick is the largest AND NO ACTUAL INFO about the ship itself - stop spamming and give some constructive feedback about the ship

Lena
05-10-2013

Penis

Ana216
05-10-2013

In a nutshell do not do any business with Cheung or WOLF, and you will be ok. As for this ship, its crap. Should not have more than a 10b price tag on it. At the end of the day it is still a Vaisseau.

Jazzmin
05-10-2013

This looks like the perfect Ship for me. 10/10? I can think of lots of stuff to add to it. What is the Dura when Military paneled?

Cheung and Wolf might scam, I agree with the above post, don't deal with them if they scam.
One of the reasons, I almost never deal in NC ships is that people might call me a scammer even if, all I did is pay the requested price. If you get my meaning. So, lets not bicker about who, scammed who, This is mean't to be a "Happy" Occasion.

Meant to be "Lets not bicker about who killed who, this is meant to be a a happy, Occasion.
Monty Python And the Holy grail quote. :)

Jazzmin
05-10-2013

Also, It doesn't have any skills on my model. As I do not know what skills this ship gets.

Jazzmin
05-10-2013

It's not posting my link. :( It should be there for a few minutes on the memo..

CheungPoTsai
05-10-2013

No ill admit it I lost serfs ship then paid him $$$ after I lost it idk y yall still bringing that up ask serg he will tell u I paid him $$$ after I lost his ship and I never scammed CDR I never even used a ship from them and as for Edward's FFCV he put it in bazaar and WOLF bought it so dude how is that a scam? Get ur story straight next time ok?

Sonia
05-10-2013

What about Hughes and Cerisa ? You scammed Cerisa's ship

Rashid
05-10-2013

Lol jazzmin "perfect ship for me" ? Noob like you will sink in all ship

Mei Hua
05-11-2013

Cheng, just quit. When you have this many people hate you its quite obvious you overstayed your welcome....

Kicker
05-11-2013

Jazzmin, the perfect ship for you is a trade clipper because your far from any type of maritimer.

CheungPoTsai
05-11-2013

Lol yall know nothing about Hughes and that scam that wasn't me I didn't kno anything about it until they started blamen me for stealing it then they found out I didn't have anything to do with it but I was friends with person who stole it so that is y they called me scammer

Shirin
05-11-2013

Shut up Cheung!! Like it was said earlier " your a whiny little brat" more than anything... Im sick of hearing all your excuses... If theres smoke theres fire... Your a SCAMMER!!

xXxAlbuquerquexXx
05-11-2013

Geeez...what this shit against PAC and against Cheung eh ? All ppl huper their prices c'mon give it a break guys...go play and have fun !

xXxAlbuquerquexXx
05-11-2013

hype*

Sophia
05-11-2013

SL noob, stop talking about BBB and PAC, bot companies have better members than you guys, they better persons and bunch of haters there. Nelle is good guy when you know him.

Sakura
05-11-2013

Hey remember when we used to talk about how this ship had so many mods, but dura was a bit light for it to be a top-tier battleship? Good times.

Soop
05-11-2013

Hey, CheungPoTsai! I am from Taiwan server, Sergent002's friend. I was there when you told him "this is all the money I have sorry Serg(4b) MLS was worth 6-10b at that time. You also lied to Sergent about the name who took the ship because such name was never made. So yes you are a scammer, also Serg doesn't want to be involved so don't message him. Thanks CheungPoTsai.

Spy.
05-11-2013

@ Sophia
Hmm... you included BBB so I assume that the player spamming the hate against PAC & everything else is from SL?
Sigh... All talk I guess :)

Laurencio
05-11-2013

Soop I was there when Sergent told him to pay 4bil and his name is clear and I also seen the person that took the MLS the dude was selling the ship 3 days after and when have MLS ever been over 6bil? Never on this servour but anyway can everyone stop spamming the chat this is childish this isn't here to criticise people its here for people to look at ship's

Jean
05-11-2013

Price Check?

Sonia
05-11-2013

wth is wrong with you? You can't have a discussion about the ship itself! Noob.

Nicola
05-11-2013

Stop blaming it on someone else Cheung , it's you who scammed Cerisa's ship, you're a scammer, period.

Lewis
05-11-2013

save yer bitching for the game if someone scammed you its because you allowed them to , if you cant pay attention to what your doing thats your fault...
if you were scammed properly then report in game not bitch here.

Wen zhi
05-11-2013

'grow up stop acting like little kids its a game' these are your words CPT take your own advice

Maria
05-11-2013

STOP ARGUING! AND GROW UP, I NEED TO GET SOME INFO ON THIS SHIP, AND YOU DICKS ARE TOO BUSY ARGUING!

price check?


lookie there i just showed you one of the examples about what should be posted under the posting.


now instead of arguing it would be smart to answer with the price

Sonia
05-11-2013

No

Sylvia
05-11-2013

Did truth get blocked? I really enjoyed his/her posts

Natascha
05-11-2013

13-15b atm. sell fast before ppl realized what a crap ship it is

Polaris
05-11-2013

what happened?

1307dura. 225crews. crazy armour.
this ship can be made all full max with 25%cargo down.
this ship is pretty good ship. one of fastest battle ship.(cargo and 4sail slots)
Galley have weakness against heavybombing in that case.
best skill combination is IGP and APN in my opinion.
weakness is dura. this ship can get sunk by 1crit hit.

gracie
05-12-2013

Selling AV for USD only pm in game.

Kenny42000
05-13-2013

WTB AV 10 USD pm me.

Port Official
05-13-2013

lol. a) you can get banned for that. b) pay more

Nina
05-13-2013

ignore Kenny42000, the guy is full retard.

Cornelia
05-13-2013

Kenny doesnt exists, this name is just from a random noob troll

EmilyReis
05-13-2013

WTS my Ambush Vaisseu. 50$

Jafar
05-13-2013

hahahahahahahhhaha someone write as pac for selling av so pac do it to sl, more than sl dislike pac

EmilyReis
05-13-2013

To the fake emily. you're wrong. I'd sell for more like $100.

Naoyasu
05-13-2013

The fake Emily who's selling the Ambush Vaisseau for $50 spell Vaisseau wrong too lol

Sergent002
05-13-2013

WTS Festive Ironsides. 50$

Sergent002
05-13-2013

No, I don't. T .T

EmilyReis
05-14-2013

I am a failure just as Lodian, Boomstick and Sergent002. I think I am rising up but I am falling down. I joined Shit Legion because I am retarded. Hurr Durr.

Kirby
05-14-2013

I'm sorry to ask this but who is RC?

Kirby
05-14-2013

Kirby= :D

Kirby
05-14-2013

Sorry to post a 3rd time but I don't know the abbreviations for SL and RC sorry to say. Just here to have fun is all.

Thanks,

Kirby

Xiao Wei
05-14-2013

RC- Royal Company - the chinese pro maritimers are in there (atleast some are pro, some are just DB noobs like char.aznable)

Nina
05-14-2013

PRC = china, RC is just a subsituted name for china

Lancelot
05-14-2013

PRC = china, RC is just a subsituted name for china

Mei Hua
05-14-2013

I think that RC = RoyalCompany but also means Republic (of) China

Io
05-14-2013

Chinese in china are bunch of racist douchebags always think they're the best, when they get beaten up they start blaming it all on team mates or something else, never admit it's their own fault

Miyo
05-15-2013

ok Thanks

Calico'Jack
05-17-2013

amidst all the fighting, I will ask if there is a special skill list for
the AV. Guess it's called Ship Skills, my bad if I messed that up.

Xiao Wei
05-25-2013

what is the panel for this out of ticket?

Lisa
05-25-2013

8b

Fanta
05-25-2013

this aint worth 8b this is 15b+

Lewis
05-25-2013

No not even -5b so stop using ill logical reason to bump up the price 8b is a good price 15 is freaking insane

Hernan
05-25-2013

Only idiots would pay 15

Fanta
05-25-2013

I got impersonalted ;_;
Still, this is around 10-13b i think, 8b is a little bit too low

Dongwoo
05-25-2013

TrollTrollTroll, 8b gives you a ffcv badly modded. AV is much higher, come on how stupied do you think ppl are??

Mei Hua
05-25-2013

Are we talking real prices or over inflated reseller prices? Cause I got a well modded FFCV for 7b. Plus the dura on this thing really hurts it's value (Yes I know its 1307, one crit = dead). Serious maritimers don't want it and others can't afford it, only the resellers were dumb enough to hold onto them.

Miyo
05-25-2013

lodian guy wrote a review said sniper or BC only

Fanta
05-25-2013

All other aspects of AV far exceed FFCV's, higher price is obvious
Ambush Vaisseau Festive First Class Vais
Durability(max) 1307 1358
Armour (base) 45 40
Turn (base) 9 7
Wave resist(base) 7 7
Crew 225 202
gun (doesnt matter much) 80 100
Sails Faster with 4 slot sail Only 3 sail slot
Level requirement Lower Higher
Improvement slots 10 7
Capacity,lower = faster 510 minimum 585 minimum



With 10 improvement slots, AV although still have lower dura, all of its other stats will be far higher than FFCV's . I've seen AV with base 66 armour (45+21) and FFCV is only around 40+ (5 to 10) max, AV's wave turn will also be better with 10 slots, and what better is AV has improved gunport for those who loves to pew pew , and AV's lowest cargo i've seen is 109, that's like flying in battle

Fanta
05-25-2013

If you're going for a 1v1 AV isnt ideal though, if it's 1v1 i'd rather choose FFCV

Liza
05-26-2013

some dudes in seville trying to trade there AV for AFCV lol
seems damm resellers keep getting worse and become more stupide evey day
whoever owns a AFCV wil never trade it for this CRAP AV that can be killed by carro16 1shot crit EASY even with 100armor its stil CRAP
only person this ship would fit would be a pirate wannabe who cant row a galley

Junchul
05-26-2013

This is a sniper ship. Thus the low dura isn't a big deal if you can avoid the crits. If you get caught and camp crit out of melee then yeah. dead. But so are most other ships so whatever.

This thing is really fast at -25 percent cargo. Its also small and nimble so it can steer between allies or sunk ships. 225 men is great cause you don't have to be afraid of melee like. in say a msf or fis if your wmb doesn't pop your kind screwed due to sailor loss.

Its in no form an admiral or tank ship. use for 1V1 or 4/5 slot in fleet battle if left alone and with right player behind the wheel it can be deadly.

But it is in no means worth 20b. 15 max.

Junchul
05-26-2013

This is a sniper ship. Thus the low dura isn't a big deal if you can avoid the crits. If you get caught and camp crit out of melee then yeah. dead. But so are most other ships so whatever.

This thing is really fast at -25 percent cargo. Its also small and nimble so it can steer between allies or sunk ships. 225 men is great cause you don't have to be afraid of melee like. in say a msf or fis if your wmb doesn't pop your kind screwed due to sailor loss.

Its in no form an admiral or tank ship. use for 1V1 or 4/5 slot in fleet battle if left alone and with right player behind the wheel it can be deadly.

But it is in no means worth 20b. 15 max.

Francine
05-26-2013

what optional skill for this ship and what FS part?

Mr.Bangas
05-29-2013

WTT AV 10/10 best in GAMA for AFCV 8/8 or FIS 7/7 ++++???? pm me Mr.Bangas

Misun
05-29-2013

oops i think you mean AV 10/10 ++++???? for AFCV8/8 or FIS 7/7

Vegilsio
05-29-2013

WTT CLR 7/7 to best in GAMA AV 10/10 pm me!

Vegilsio
05-29-2013

WTT CLR 7/7 to best in GAMA AV 10/10 pm me!

Wen zhi
05-29-2013

omg vegilsio youre a joke!

Rashid
05-31-2013

how much for a ticket?

Port Official
05-31-2013

13-15b

Maria
05-31-2013

Sounds about right, i saw stupid ass serg002 selling his 2/6 for 14b yest in seville

Erda
05-31-2013

that does not make sence 13-14bil

002
05-31-2013

Love you too Maria.

Kicker
05-31-2013

may be he's stupid,but he sold out he got this ship and sold it

Sakura
05-31-2013

Mr.Bangas is the real joke here not vegilsio ^^

Li Yue
06-04-2013

what is price of AV 8/8...?

Shirin
06-04-2013

around 20-25b

Nina
06-04-2013

cml selling one in seville now! avoid at all cost!!!!

Nina
06-05-2013

lol what moron wil pay 25bil for this?
15bil max for 8/8 one if ya dont buy from scammers

Laurencio
06-05-2013

20b for one with great mods and -25 percent cargo. 10/10. is fair price.

Shirin
06-05-2013

20bil is scam price damm resellers even with great mod this aint worth 20bil ever, its not because it says ambusch in title its worth 20bil damm resellers , dont get fooled people

Sylvia
06-14-2013

Price check..

Miyo
06-14-2013

20bil+++ and 30bil tops

Chester
06-15-2013

Wtf r u smoking and why r u not sharing

Sophia
06-29-2013

Price check for ticket or 0/5

Sophia
06-29-2013

Price check for ticket or 0/5

ship stealer buster
07-07-2013

seville try to steal them.. they sell for 15b

ship stealer buster
07-07-2013

seville try to steal them.. they sell for 15b

Inigo_Montoya
07-12-2013

WTT FOR MSUPF

Li Yue
07-23-2013

price check

Beatrice
07-23-2013

Sigh CPC is unmuted now after 1 UNFAIR. This is bullshit you cant tell me she doesn't get special treatment now. I'm convinced she can do or say whatever she wants she is very manipulative and its like she has an eerie cult like spell over the people in UWO. Textbook Narcissist

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Junchul
07-31-2013

i think AV 10/10 is good ship for mell n sniper cause the ship have 225 crew n slim body

Liza
07-31-2013

it die so fast

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Meng Meng
08-03-2013

erm are the skill set on this same as standard Vaisseau? or is it something else?

Dongwoo
08-03-2013

yes , same

Chester
08-03-2013

@Dongwoo, if youre not sure or dont know, dont just guess, NO not the same skill set.
Improved gun port also available on ambush vaiss, i recomend attack prevention net and IGP. IGP needs FS parts: mod heavy gunpot/admiral's cabin/munitions chambers

Holfina
08-04-2013

^^ ty chester =)

Enternal
08-04-2013

this ship never had one bc dont like ther is no use for it in battle
yes u can get kill with him but as soon as u in mele and somebody is on post u are dead
only thing what i see in this ship is to show off

but people like it

price ticket 12-13bil aprox same as MsupF hawe sen in past days people
traiding it 1;1 with MsupF



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Port Official
10-23-2013

That AV is all failed up. Cheaply modded. Wrong cargo setting. Like URB his AV is a fail too.

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Junchul
11-09-2013

this goes 10/10

wendy
01-23-2014

i cant get the calculator to work , any ideas what i might be doing wrong .
When i try to drag parts to the boxes i get a circle with a bar

Ming Mei
01-23-2014

that's not how to add parts, see those numbers underneath the parts? click on those and watch what happens. Kinda hard to explain, but easy to do once you get the hang of it. The first set of numbers is for the first armament slot, the second set of numbers is for the other.

Hernan
03-06-2014

This a decent all around battle ship.
1. With 225 there is no need to have WMB like the frigate class
so that's a skill slot you save in that comparison.

2. It has a very good armour with many difficulties you can get to 100 armour with rolled plates and thus no need for BPA as OSSkill, second skill you don't need due to stats of the ship.

It has slightly more armour crew and and speed than the AFCV
You can afford to lose sailors an remain at full gunning proficiency.

Not many ships can go 10/10 think about the difference between AFC MFCV.
The 2 extra mods is huge plus for any ship.

The 2 big downsides are the lower that frigate speed and the lower dura,
I must note however that if your counting on extra 50-60 dura to stay afloat in battle you may be lucky if you survive due to that.

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Jafar
03-22-2014

AV is probably the strongest battleship in the game.
Mine is full modded by me (SB20) and is almost invencible.
Armour is 111, dura is 1323, 225 sailors and very fast.
26 turn, 31 wave. My AV is not for sale.
So many dgaffs and dstorms I used there is no price that pays.

Nicola
03-22-2014

Any ship can be the strongest , it all depends on the player , their handling skills , and their skills ? lol

isko
05-31-2014

its in bottle now. hope they drop like rain ^_^

BLUE
05-31-2014

take it being as Isko said that about AV also he is too poor to buy bottles or the ships at current value...

can this ship get 6 braodside slots with fusion anybody know ?

ReaD
05-31-2014

no...it is LIMIT dat broadside is set to 5 for large ship...even with ship fusion or CASH item...

some guy
10-26-2014

This ship still any good? been away from game awhile, left just before ship fushion, wondering if i should try to sell? rebuild? or just enjoy :) build is dam near perfect, any thoughts appreciated.

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