- Shirin
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- I so want this one dammit
- Montador
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- Mid Lima drops these sometimes... but not too often.
- Emma
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- where on earth do traders get 50k trade fame. I barely have 30k at level 50 trader
- Shirin
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- selling spices or tumbagas silly~
- ReaD
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- making and selling those velvet/satin/flannel/specialty goods in india too...genius
- Igor
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- You can't just look at sails to tell which one is faster. A large galleon for example, fully improved, using 22/25/-1 sails and large spankers will have 11 more vert sails an over 50 more horizontal sails than a fully improved cruise light clipper using the same ship parts. Anyboy who has ever sailed a large galleon will tell you it's not as fast though. A xebec cruiser, even though it's made of oak, is one fast little ship.
- Miyo
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- how the hell did you get to lvl 50 without knowing how to get fame...
- Wen zhi
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- oh come on spy, post it on netmarble forums, set a topic on market place there with all the stuff you're "wtb".You are, getting quite annoying here! just move, Please.
- Jean
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- @ best aide? I am so getting her when EA comes out!
- Spy.
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- You don't have the right to order me.
- Spy's mum
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- i do, you poped out from my ass, kid
- JR
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- I got it from a lvl 7 bio map in West Famagusta and within was a Jewellery Box.
- DreadPirateWesley
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- Send me a Tell ingame Spy. with a price
- Jean
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- for your aide ? is there some new patch i aint heard about ?
- Meng Meng
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- are you the same person trolling around and try to push the price high? or you are just 13 years old?
welcome melee is definitely not 100% active even if you are not disordered. Can you see your replies that you were just trolling?
1) when i said AFCV+ lots of more stuffs isnt a good trade. Then you said: "It's not about what is better. It's about what is newer. Besides, you can't really know which one is Better in battle until you try them both out".... so you dont know if it is better or not, but newer then it made it a good trade?
2) you are so wrong with welcome melee battle skill. It is in default: does not guarantee it would be actived (give you 200% defence) even if your ship is not desordered. Maybe you are very pro that you can do some tricks to increase the chance, but it is so obvious it is setted by the GM/ game developer to make it not 100% work, since this 200% is breaking the balance of game/ship. You have to take the chance that it doesnt work. And below are your trolls, getting weaker and weaker, and still trying not to give up:
"It's not that the ship skill will work 100%. It's that it can work at any given time unless in disorder."
"I made no claim that it worked 100%, what I did say was I don't believe an AFCV would take the chance of boarding a boat equipped with welcome melee unless it was in disorder"
"Welcome melee is only unreliable if youre a noob who cant use it properly."
3) the ship is just not good enough for melee, the skill doesnt help with withdraw from melee, doesnt have good crews to survive a few chops. Makes it not worth as much as AFCV.
even if you have 2x defence. lets look at the melee situation:
CLR/FLR/RHG those ppl on the ships has many sailors, melee/college skills for boosts... it is very easy to get the attack defence to 400-500 atk/350 def. (go and check wiki for the melee formula if you dont know it). Your Mis maybe can get you to 300-350 atk/ 270-300 def (or around 550-600 if 2x).
you will recived about 30-60 crews even if you have 2x def. (30 if you have 2x def or able to counter attack, you lost alot more if you are being countered, or reteated fail). There are 4 melee skills, and you have 1/4 chance to counter the attack. The attack side always only have 1/4 chance to get countered, 3/4 chance deliver regular damage (30-50 depends on if you have 2x or not) to you, and give you almost a double if you are being countered or reteat fail.
Lets make it simplet, you get normally 30-40 lose each chops (if you are not counter and not reteat fail). Your poor crews only can take like maybe 4-6 chops max. If welcome melee doesnt work, you cant stand for like 3 chops too, since you have to run at the first place, and most of the maritimer has aide with skills to preventing retreat or using items like reteat bells. And the welcome melee battles doesnt work like attack prevention net. AFCV has more crews, (and maybe with special stern skills), that can make the defence in melee higher then the rowing boats, give you more crews and chance to retreat from melee.
I know maybe you are very pro. People also always criticals and kill battle ships with trading ship too. But it doesnt help with rating a trade ship can be as good as a the battle ship. Problem with this MIs is again: it is not suitable for melee, make it less value company to AFCV.
Stop inflating the price of it!
- Beatrice
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- what socery is this?
- Rashid
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- It is painfully clear that you don't understand how welcome melee works.
- Junchul
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- it is painfully clear that you think you understand how welcome melee works. I say again, it does not guarantee it would be actived (give you 200% defence) even if your MIs not not disorder.
In melee battle, there is something called attack side (initiative melee battle) and defense side. If you are in the defence side, welcome melee battle skill can be actived. Otherwise, you are just a sitting duck with only 150 crews, will no chance for more then 4 chops and less chance to reteat from melee (since most of the ppl has aide skills to prevent you form reteat for 3 rounds.)
To calicute whether you can be the defence side. It is very not clear, no wiki talk/formula talk about it. But it could be a combination about the battle skills/levels, aide traits, sailors ability/loyality/numbers etc. I know you can keep firing and employ cheap crews to make the lower sailors ability/loyality, that may help you to get to defence side. But the ship is has low crews, skill not able to help you to reteat. This is obvious inferior compare to what AFCV has.
- Daveos
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- What is needed to get this quest?!!!!
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